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Offline Kerrse

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Re: weight lifting supplements
« Reply #20 on: 28 January 2013, 12:44 »
I have about 4 shakes a day as well as 4 meals

Combination of a Complete All In One & Complete Protein Blend

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Re: weight lifting supplements
« Reply #21 on: 28 January 2013, 13:58 »

3 protein shakes a day is a bit much unless you are properly training for competition, if it isn't used it's converted to fat. 


Since when?? Think you have been reading the wrong Info. It's excess carbs that converts to fat.

Since the beginning of man.

It does depend on just how much you are ingesting and how active you are. As it will primarily be broken down to aid muscle repair and energy use, but by that logic you could just stuff yourself with protein and become the same size as Ronnie Coleman.

There are plenty of sites, and papers that describe the numerous breakdown phases of protein as it is used, it is not quite so simple as it goes in and muscle grows though. Sadly. :sad:

It's not relavent to this. The amount of protein you have to ingest Would have to be massive. It's possible it can happen. But the likelihood of it doing so in this situation is slim to none.

Yes protein aids recovery but you mainly piss the excess out.

I've never come across anyone getting fat on pure protien. In fact you're more likely to become leaner.

Reading papers, sites is all well and good. Real life experience tells you more.  :wink:







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Re: weight lifting supplements
« Reply #22 on: 28 January 2013, 15:28 »
That's like saying Americans don't get fat on a high protein diet of red meat. Protein can be converted to fat.

All depends on recovery, energy burnt, daily calorie diet and metabolism that determines if the excess protein will ever get stored.

With loosing body fat, high reps, cardio and reduced calorie diet would work best for someone overweight.

There's T3/T4 that can aid in metabolism, but that's heading into the realm of roids. But then again UK roid laws are intresting and online prescription meds. Such as roids are class c or b but are legal for personal use, but illegal for reselling and dealing. Then most meds like codeine you can obtain online by entering required symptoms and a private practitioner will approve it, as its no different than using a private GP eg Bupa, rather than NHS. It's how junkies get their codeine/morphine fix.


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Re: weight lifting supplements
« Reply #23 on: 28 January 2013, 15:46 »
That's rubbish. Do you think those Americans are only eating a high protein diet? What about the carbs in the supersize drinks and the bread and the trans fats in the fast food and massive portion sizes?

All you are on about is calories in < calories out.

If you are on a high protien diet. The protein wont covert to fat.

Only way it could do it is if the protein got converted to glucose first and only if the amount produced were then in excess of daily maintenance requirements would there be conversion to fat.

The point is, no human could eat enough on a daily basis to allow that to happen.

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Re: weight lifting supplements
« Reply #24 on: 28 January 2013, 15:52 »
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Re: weight lifting supplements
« Reply #25 on: 28 January 2013, 16:03 »
When you consume more protein than your body needs to supply its amino acid demands, the excess protein can be burned for energy. Your body burns molecules for energy using a series of chemical reactions known as the citric acid cycle. Excess amino acids can be turned into molecules that can be used in the citric acid cycle via a chemical process known as transamination. For example, some amino acids can be converted into the molecule acetyl CoA, an important molecule for the citric acid cycle. If you consume more protein than your body needs each day, the excess protein will be converted into body fat. Many athletes consume large amounts of protein to try to promote weight gain, but much of this added weight will be in the form of fat. In addition, consuming excessive amounts of protein can also affect the health of other parts of your body, esp kidneys.

A calorie is a calorie. Once you meet your basic nutrient needs it doesn't matter where the rest of your calories come from. If it's more energy than you need, you'll gain weight. The average adult only needs 0.8 grams of protein per kg body weight. If you are doing intense muscle building exercise raise that to 1 or 1.2. Otherwise any surplus protein just gets converted to fat. Keep in mind that you need to be eating carbohydrates in addition to protein. Your body needs a constant supply of glucose, mostly for brain function. If your body doesn't get this glucose from carbs it will break down the protein your feeding it instead. Not a huge deal..but a waste of expensive high-quality protein. I would suggest using the 0.8/kg body weight ratio to figure out how much you need. Dieters/exercisers tend to get obsessed with protein for some reason.  All protien contains calories (Optimum protien shake 120 calories per shake).
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Re: weight lifting supplements
« Reply #26 on: 29 January 2013, 16:27 »
uhrghhhh  :sick: my pre workout drink 'orange burst' is forking foul!  :sick:

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Re: weight lifting supplements
« Reply #27 on: 29 January 2013, 16:42 »
uhrghhhh  :sick: my pre workout drink 'orange burst' is forking foul!  :sick:

I'm going to be using protein shakes as of tonight, only after workout though, and if I haven't hit my protein macro for the day (which would be rare as I usually do, love chicken!).

What's Orange Burst? Sounds nice.... :grin:

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Re: weight lifting supplements
« Reply #28 on: 29 January 2013, 18:37 »
It's not nice! It's like a foul orangey powdery taste!!

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Re: weight lifting supplements
« Reply #29 on: 29 January 2013, 18:39 »
It's not nice! It's like a foul orangey powdery taste!!

Just did a 30k ride on the bike in gym :laugh: a lot of clunge in there tonight  :lipsrsealed:

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