2.016v or VR6 need opinions...

[tshirt2k]

ABF cams in an ABF head is far better than KR cams in an ABF head.

You can get ~170-175 on a good standard engine with standalone management.

[Len]

Who makes this standalone management? Where can one obtain one?

[Metallix]

Pretty much anything not original equipment.

Emerald, DTA, Megasquirt, AEM, Omex  etc.

[hobnobbob]

Myself an Khare both had our cars on the JKM rollers, his a 16v and mine a VR6. For the extra weight and fuel costs the gains don't seem worth it, only sound. Here are our graphs:

Mine:



His:

I would go for a 16v if i were to get another Mk3

That seems like a great figure. what have you done with yours then? just all the standard stuff thats been said?

i've been looking around at a few 16V's in my area and none have tickled my pickle yet so holding out.

[VR6_Wherry]

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That seems like a great figure. what have you done with yours then? just all the standard stuff thats been said?

i've been looking around at a few 16V's in my area and none have tickled my pickle yet so holding out.

Just a BMC CDA Induction kit, Jetex decat pipe and a scorpion cat back system. Only other thing was a good service the noise is something special

[hobnobbob]

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That seems like a great figure. what have you done with yours then? just all the standard stuff thats been said?

i've been looking around at a few 16V's in my area and none have tickled my pickle yet so holding out.

Just a BMC CDA Induction kit, Jetex decat pipe and a scorpion cat back system. Only other thing was a good service the noise is something special

That's handy as I've got that same induction kit from my old fiesta project!
At least I know the kind of figure I'll get. Thanks dude

[tshirt2k]

Those figures aren't guaranteed.

[benvictors]

My VR pulled 184bhp on the Docs DD rolling road with just a de-cat and im pretty sure them rollers are as god as any when it comes to accuracy. I now have the 2.9 obd1 plenum with port matched and polished tb so I reckon I wont be far off 200bhp now.
With not a great deal of work, you can get passed the 200bhp mark with a VR (Cams), however it will never handle aswell as a Valver, thats a certainty

[Ess_Three]

My VR pulled 184bhp on the Docs DD rolling road with just a de-cat and im pretty sure them rollers are as god as any when it comes to accuracy. I now have the 2.9 obd1 plenum with port matched and polished tb so I reckon I wont be far off 200bhp now.
With not a great deal of work, you can get passed the 200bhp mark with a VR (Cams), however it will never handle aswell as a Valver, thats a certainty

From experience: A 2.9 with a modified airbox, fully re-worked TB and a few other basic bolt one won't break 200 BHP...so I very much doubt a 2.8 will.
The upper manifold & TB are a great mod though. 

The US 12v head gasket (with a re-map) is a decent mod.

[WOLF R]

Some rather interesting, myths and opinions on here...

You guys should listen to Ess_Three and Tshirt2k.

But then what do I know these 2 powertrains...