2.016v or VR6 need opinions...

[Ess_Three]

I know it will need a different map as any car would.

You don't need a different map to run 268s...you need a different ECU. One that doesn't use a MAP sensor.
And even then, you'll struggle to get the cams working well with the standard plenum.

But hey, what do I know? 

[AudiA8Quattro]

Did you fix your car in the end Glen?

[hobnobbob]

I know it will need a different map as any car would.

You don't need a different map to run 268s...you need a different ECU. One that doesn't use a MAP sensor.
And even then, you'll struggle to get the cams working well with the standard plenum.

But hey, what do I know? 

I never said you didnt  get off my arse i dont even own a 16v yet i'm only looking at my options around the web. inspiration is what its called.
If your going to give advice to people like me who are getting into the VW scene and dont know much about it you dont need to be so arrogant about knowing things i dont.
this whole thread is about getting advice.

[Ess_Three]

I never said you didnt  get off my arse i dont even own a 16v yet i'm only looking at my options around the web. inspiration is what its called.
If your going to give advice to people like me who are getting into the VW scene and dont know much about it you dont need to be so arrogant about knowing things i dont.
this whole thread is about getting advice.

Here's an idea...why not read the info that's already on here before you step up like the 'big I am' and tell the world what you are going to do?

TBH, I couldn't give a toss whether you waste your money on stuff that won't work, or not.

[martin_hill_1989]

only problem with forums full of pricks he is asking for advice and u all booting off, lmoa and i am not been a keyboard worrier either, just he asking for help, i had a mk3 vr6 and i now have a cordby 16v and i wud say my corby is quicker than the vr6 off mark and bottom end, and my mate build vw track cars etc and he said to put kr cams in the abf a nice full system decent air in-take and a chip u will see 170-175bhp easy with loads of fun

[VR6_Wherry]

Myself an Khare both had our cars on the JKM rollers, his a 16v and mine a VR6. For the extra weight and fuel costs the gains don't seem worth it, only sound. Here are our graphs:

Mine:



His:

I would go for a 16v if i were to get another Mk3

[leigh_harty]

I prefer the low down torque and the general lazy sexy sounding grunt but I do most of my driving on the m6 so biased opinion

My old valver with a lightened flywheel would keep up with my mate's old vr6 upto 3 figures with not much in it.

I've got a lightened flywheel for my vr still waiting to go on too 

[Len]

If good advice is what you want then you would do well to listen to Glen (Ess-three)
I have done a lot of research independantly and with tips from him then find he has either already done it or knows about it.
There is very little or nothing he doesnt know about tuning and making a Mk3 go faster.

[Ess_Three]

and my mate build vw track cars etc and he said to put kr cams in the abf a nice full system decent air in-take and a chip u will see 170-175bhp easy with loads of fun

Being blunt, your mate is an idiot. 
It he'd bothered measuring the Cams, he'd know that ABF cams are more aggressive than KR cams...so fitting KR Cams will be de-tuning.

A full system won't give you any power gains on an otherwise standard engine.

With all those mods, you'll struggle to see a genuine 175 BHP...it took me all those mods + a fully re-worked big valve head to get 175 proper horsepower.
That's on a standard manifold & downpipes and running a Cat.

You'd be VERY lucky to get 175BHP on a set of 268 cams without headwork, never mind KR cams and exhaust/chip/filter.

[Ess_Three]

only problem with forums full of pricks he is asking for advice and u all booting off,

The problem is that the forum is full of internet experts who have actually done the square root of f**k-all, yet pass their dreaming off as fact.
People then believe their drivel and pass it on as fact.

Personally, I couldn't give a toss who buys crap, de-tunes their motor or spends a fortune on bits that just won't work...but to those who actually want to find gains for minimal spending, maybe they should remember you were blessed with two ears and only one mouth for a reason!