cammed ? price ? mine sounds nice at idle, but i want that bit of grunt/beefy sound .... so when im at traffic lights, leaving people in first gear i want it to sound powerful like a vr buh it wont ever sound like that.... love leaving people at lights especially the black bmw 330ci 2008 model hu tried to overtake me, but i left him behind :p :p :p oh whooo needs a vr or 16v wen my 8v can do stuff like that to another german car ... just hate my sticky CLUTCH !!!