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Offline tweed

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #20 on: 28 October 2012, 17:46 »
ok cool so it doesnt matter about disk size then i should tell him to downgrade to 256 and get brembo disks and mintex ds2500 pads and his brakes will be way better  :wink: :laugh: or not  :rolleyes:


You sir are a idiot!

We are giving you our years of knowledge and you are throwing it back, possibly thinking you know what he needs to do and go 312.

So why even bother asking the question? And waste our time with your response?

I won't be replying in any of your threads with good sound advise again!

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #21 on: 28 October 2012, 18:00 »

You are not listening! Going 312 will not make the car stop any faster. They will only spread the heat further than 288 meaning it will take a little longer before fade. Bigger brakes are found on heavier cars.

To stop faster you need good quality parts. Not a big disc!

i really am confused as to how 312's wont make it stop any better than the 288's given that the pad will be further away from the center therefor giving it more leverage is it not simple physics or im a completely stupid????

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #22 on: 28 October 2012, 18:58 »

You are not listening! Going 312 will not make the car stop any faster. They will only spread the heat further than 288 meaning it will take a little longer before fade. Bigger brakes are found on heavier cars.

To stop faster you need good quality parts. Not a big disc!

i really am confused as to how 312's wont make it stop any better than the 288's given that the pad will be further away from the center therefor giving it more leverage is it not simple physics or im a completely stupid????

Completely stupid!!

A f1 car disc is 278mm/11"


But it's made of carbon and the car weights 500kg

Do you feel stupid? Because you should and this thread makes you look very dumb

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #23 on: 28 October 2012, 19:00 »

i really am confused as to how 312's wont make it stop any better than the 288's given that the pad will be further away from the center therefor giving it more leverage is it not simple physics or im a completely stupid????

The difference in diameter makes very little difference in the real world, since the pads are the same, so the swept area of the disc is the same.
What you do get, is more metal to sink heat into...so they should go longer before overheating and fading.
But on the road, you'd be hard pushed to tell the difference between 288s and 312s.
280s to 312s...yes, as the 280s are noticably thinner (20mm vs 25mm) and have a significantly smaller pad area.

The diameter really doesn't significantly improve the braking...it just maintains it longer.

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #24 on: 28 October 2012, 19:01 »
Should have said:
DS2500/M1155s on 288s will outperform standard pads on 312s all day long.

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #25 on: 28 October 2012, 21:32 »
iv got around 350bhp at the moment and running the 312's with yellowstuff pads.

braking is immense, new discs high quality fluid and braided lines

i had 280s with my set up when it was 250bhp and they worked fine

288's will easily do the job, just needs to put decent pads and discs on, fluid and lines

  


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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #26 on: 28 October 2012, 22:13 »
il ask the main question on his behalf :evil:
what brake disk/pad combo should I go for then?
say if your budget is £150-£200
i have green stuff pads with grooved disks. the grooves have disappeared & pads are low (4-5mm prob less) remaining. they lasted me a good few years with harsh braking.

Im thinking:

goodrich braided hoses
rebuild calipers with the full kit
thinking yellow stuff pads as kells has said they are immense
grooved disks but which?

thanks guys :wink:

p.s ess_three, you have an anni do your calipers have a banjo fitting? mine is the 8v but 288mm disk
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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #27 on: 28 October 2012, 22:24 »
mk3's don't have banjo fittings, you only require a banjo fitting conversion hose kit when installing mk4 rear calipers.

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #28 on: 28 October 2012, 22:26 »
ok thats weird as same retailers who sell the braided hoses asked me if its a banjo fitting :huh:
so what fitting would i have??
cheers for the quick reply thai :wink:
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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #29 on: 28 October 2012, 22:35 »
my S3 front calipers have Banjo

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