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Offline madmanmart

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #10 on: 28 October 2012, 17:08 »
My 20vt is running 288mm and stops no problems,

Try decent discs/pads.....


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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #11 on: 28 October 2012, 17:21 »
thing is the disks and pads he has are relatively new and they just cannot stop it from 140+ leptons  :whistle: and i cant see 312 being much better or are they?? i take it that all he needs for the 312mm swap is the carriers and disks as the caliper is the same??

Then he bought sh!t disc and pads and must have sh!t tyres!

A vr6 has this setup and does 140mph all day everyday.

Buy good grooved disc's buy good pads that need to be hot to work and go spend £100 a corner on good tyres.

hes only just bough the car and hes done nothing to it, nice too see you guys actually read the op  :rolleyes: and as for the tyres yeh i have to agree with you toyo proxies are shyte  :grin: :laugh:

I read he recently bought the car. This could be months ago!

I read the brakes are new, thinking that he bought them!

I read that you want a cheap alternative to the expensive brembo caliper up grade.

I read that you think these brakes are crap, knowing that with good pads, disc's and tyres they are fine on a track car that is using the brakes heavily for long periods of time.

Toyo proxies. Cheap and good for the money.

Toyo proxies fitted to a 1.8t mk3 with at least 225bhp are not up to the job!

I said £100 a corner not £40! 

Then after you done that buy some braided brake lines and bleed with some 5.1 fluid.
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Offline hobbiniho

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #12 on: 28 October 2012, 17:23 »
ok sounds like 312 are the way to go quick question though is the mk3 the same fitment as the mk4 because all the 312's that i can find are lister for golf/a3/leon

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #13 on: 28 October 2012, 17:27 »
thing is the disks and pads he has are relatively new and they just cannot stop it from 140+ leptons  :whistle: and i cant see 312 being much better or are they?? i take it that all he needs for the 312mm swap is the carriers and disks as the caliper is the same??

No...he will need a 6mm spacer between the caliper carrier and hub to space them in 6mm per side as the Mk4/TT/S3 312mm disc offset is greater.

He can keep the same calipers and brake lines.

But as has been said, if his pads are crap, he's only going to end up with heavier front brakes that are just as crap.

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #14 on: 28 October 2012, 17:29 »
ok sounds like 312 are the way to go quick question though is the mk3 the same fitment as the mk4 because all the 312's that i can find are lister for golf/a3/leon

You are not listening! Going 312 will not make the car stop any faster. They will only spread the heat further than 288 meaning it will take a little longer before fade. Bigger brakes are found on heavier cars.

To stop faster you need good quality parts. Not a big disc!

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #15 on: 28 October 2012, 17:30 »
hes only just bough the car and hes done nothing to it, nice too see you guys actually read the op  :rolleyes: and as for the tyres yeh i have to agree with you toyo proxies are shyte  :grin: :laugh:

They are?
T1-Rs?
Funny that...they handle 200 BHP on mine just fine...and I use them as trackday wets.

It's not the tyres that's shyte...it's the Mk3 chassis...sort that and the tyres are just fine.
Without sorting the chassis, even R888s/A048s are shyte.  :whistle:

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #16 on: 28 October 2012, 17:31 »
You are not listening! Going 312 will not make the car stop any faster. They will only spread the heat further than 288 meaning it will take a little longer before fade. Bigger brakes are found on heavier cars.

He's obviously decided it NEEDS 312s.
Let him get on with it...and potentially find out the hard way.  :lipsrsealed:

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #17 on: 28 October 2012, 17:32 »
You are not listening! Going 312 will not make the car stop any faster. They will only spread the heat further than 288 meaning it will take a little longer before fade. Bigger brakes are found on heavier cars.

He's obviously decided it NEEDS 312s.
Let him get on with it...and potentially find out the hard way.  :lipsrsealed:

Yep I give up  :grin:

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #18 on: 28 October 2012, 17:41 »
ok cool so it doesnt matter about disk size then i should tell him to downgrade to 256 and get brembo disks and mintex ds2500 pads and his brakes will be way better  :wink: :laugh: or not  :rolleyes:

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Re: gti with a bam brake upgrade?
« Reply #19 on: 28 October 2012, 17:45 »
ok cool so it doesnt matter about disk size then i should tell him to downgrade to 256 and get brembo disks and mintex ds2500 pads and his brakes will be way better  :wink: :laugh: or not  :rolleyes:

Probably yes...due to the better pad!  :evil:

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