And for what it's worth, I have yet to hear where the matter came from that allowed evolution. No matter how far back scientists explain our beginnings, the question of where things come from still stands. I.e. with God out of the question, am I being asked to believe that, at one point something came out of nothing of it's own accord?
Here's a link directly related to your comment of 'where matter came from that allowed evolution'. Skip to 1 minute 10 seconds to hear an answer that makes sense to a 'thinking person'. -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xeK7R-TgHIWhat is more likely. That the whole natural order of the world is suspended or that a Jewish woman told a lie? (David Hume)
"The theory of (a deistic) creation is essentially a refusal to think back beyond a certain time in the past when it becomes difficult to follow the chain of causation. To hold such a belief is, therefore, always an excuse for intellectual laziness, and generally a sign of it." - JBS Haldane
Scientists are at least trying to validate their findings (somethings which Christians do not adopt and follow principally on 'blind faith')
I mean do you agree that the earth is 13.77 billion years old or do you believe that it is between 6,000-12,000 years old?
Do you believe that it would be possible for instance to find the fossil of a rabbit from the Precambrian era?
Are 'Atheists/Non believers' expected to believe that 'God' flung the stars out into the sky?
That God placed Adam and Eve on this planet as the first humans and we've evolved from there and that humans have not evolved from Chimpanzee's?
That Noah built an ark that was able to capacitate 7 (male/female) pairs of every 'clean' animal and 7 (male/female) pairs of every bird and 2 (male/female) pairs of every 'unclean' animal and bird specie as suggested in Genesis 7:2–3 and that God shut the door before Dinosaurs, Kangaroos and Penguins had a chance to hop aboard?
Would it not be acceptable to expect that if God
did create the planet as Christians believe, that he would have at least mentioned it was of spherical form?
Why for example, did the 'Ten Commandments' not include, child molestation, rape, slavery, human trafficking etc. Could it be that this was because all of this was endorsed in the beginning by the Bible?
As Hitchens says, why did 'God/Heaven' wait for 98,000 years witnessing all that went before it in that time, famine, struggle, vision less war, people dying of their teeth, before suddenly deciding 2,000 years ago 'enough is enough' and the best way to intervene is to condemn someone to a human sacrifice (Jesus, the son of God), in the less literate parts of the Middle East, when for example 'God/Heaven' could have appealed to the Chinese for example, where people could read, write, study evidence and where there was civilisation, rather than a desert, where there was nothing? After all it was Jesus' own people, the Jews who crucified him, because they were non-believers.....
I think the most preposterous incinuation of all, is that our whole futures are pre-determined. That our destiny is out of our hands, everything that goes before us was pre-supposed and determined by God and we have nothing to do with it and that we are 'dead' until we become 'believers' and that we can only live by accepting an absolute authority?
You are entitled to believe whatever you wish to believe my friend, that is your choice. But the subject of this thread is Anti-Theism not Mono-Theism. You obviously believe you have an argument against and I would thrive on a debate, but.....
“What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.” - Hitch
