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Any point putting a 20vT in a Rallye?
« on: 10 July 2005, 11:13 »
Me and a few mates are wanting to do a 20vT conversion into a mk2, because we want to nail scoobies and evos at traffic lights laughing all the way. Is there any point in putting a 20vT from a crashed leon cupra R into a Rallye or is it just a waste of a G60 engine and a good 4wd? If not what would you guys recommend using, like just a 1.3 driver? We will of course keep you informed of the progress with pics, and should hopefully turn out nice, one of the guys helping has access to cheap carbon fibre parts and is intent on covering the thing in it, sparing no expense.
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Re: Any point putting a 20vT in a Rallye?
« Reply #1 on: 10 July 2005, 11:29 »
well your gonna need the 4wd to beat scoobies and evos, so go for it :laugh: get it as light as possible tho, the rallyes are a fair bit heavier than standard fwd golfs.

good luck, sounds like a quality project

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Re: Any point putting a 20vT in a Rallye?
« Reply #2 on: 10 July 2005, 11:50 »
if you wanted to go sleeper look you could use a syncro as the base  :tongue:

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Re: Any point putting a 20vT in a Rallye?
« Reply #3 on: 10 July 2005, 19:36 »
well your gonna need the 4wd to beat scoobies and evos

yeah - if you happen to be on a mountain track with loose gravel! please, dump the 4wd idea as it saps too much power from the engine and you don't need it. if you only want to win traffic light gps' stick the 20vT lump in and be done with it.


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Re: Any point putting a 20vT in a Rallye?
« Reply #4 on: 10 July 2005, 20:22 »
theres a limit to the power you can have and use in a fwd, and its easily exceeded with a 20vt engine.  :laugh:

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Re: Any point putting a 20vT in a Rallye?
« Reply #5 on: 10 July 2005, 21:53 »
theres a limit to the power you can have and use in a fwd, and its easily exceeded with a 20vt engine.  :laugh:

Maybe, but you still see mk4s with the IHI conversion pushing 400bhp and as long as you know how to put the power down, it's bye bye M3!

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Re: Any point putting a 20vT in a Rallye?
« Reply #6 on: 10 July 2005, 22:11 »
Make sure you budget for a LSD. Getting the power down in a 2wd mk2 with just 210bhp can be tricky in the first 2 gears and forget it in the wet!
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Re: Any point putting a 20vT in a Rallye?
« Reply #7 on: 10 July 2005, 23:42 »
yeah - if you happen to be on a mountain track with loose gravel! please, dump the 4wd idea as it saps too much power from the engine and you don't need it. if you only want to win traffic light gps' stick the 20vT lump in and be done with it.

The Syncro/Rallye/G60 system only puts power to the rear wheels if the fronts start slipping, so you don't actually loose any power/echonomy in normal driving conditions as you do on constant 4wd system.  Gives you all the advantages but non of the drawbacks :)

The Rallye has a stonger drivetrain than the Synchro so is a better base for a high power engine transplant, I'd defo go for it  :grin:
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Re: Any point putting a 20vT in a Rallye?
« Reply #8 on: 11 July 2005, 10:25 »
yeah i was just saying the other day i'd like to do one of these! quite a few have been done now as alot of g60's are long in the tooth.
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Re: Any point putting a 20vT in a Rallye?
« Reply #9 on: 11 July 2005, 20:01 »
Thanks for all your help. What I was trying to ask was how much different are the G60 and the 20vT from say a cupra r or gti, I know work will have to be done, but would it be alot greater than putting one in a £500 1.3 driver as opposed to a £5000 rallye?
I guess are abjective to start off with was to beat evos and scoobies at traffic lights, if they'll race, but also generally - dual carriages, motorways etc. All we need now is money. Lol.
So, gtijoe do you know of any place I can find out more about the rallyes that have already had 20vT conversions or are they just word of mouth. Thanks