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Offline sharki786

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agu head with bam bottom end
« on: 05 September 2012, 18:30 »
will the agu head bolt straight onto the bam bottom end? Will the oil & water wells line up?
Also what power would you expect with the k04 turbs with front intercooler 007 tip and other normal mods that most do on the 1.8t engine?

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Re: agu head with bam bottom end
« Reply #1 on: 05 September 2012, 23:09 »
Yes, it should bolt straight up.  Check with the headgasket for any that dont first.

k04 mapped is about 260-270bhp.

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Re: agu head with bam bottom end
« Reply #2 on: 06 September 2012, 08:58 »
is it worth doing that or not?
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Re: agu head with bam bottom end
« Reply #3 on: 06 September 2012, 09:03 »
Your gonna need fuel rail etc too.

Might be easier to change your rods and just fit a k04 turbo?

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Re: agu head with bam bottom end
« Reply #4 on: 06 September 2012, 12:43 »
fuel rail from the bam? with green bosch injectors or is it the red saab injectors?
well the agu has bigger bore intake and bam has the forged bottom end.
was talking with my mate bizzle yesterday and he said most people do that.
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Re: agu head with bam bottom end
« Reply #5 on: 06 September 2012, 20:46 »
Only difference between bottom ends is the slightly lower compression ration on a BAM.

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Re: agu head with bam bottom end
« Reply #6 on: 07 September 2012, 11:59 »
I can't see any point if your only going to run 260bhp with a k04.

I also remember F17 bad forging his BAM bottom end because he's running big turbo kit.


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Re: agu head with bam bottom end
« Reply #7 on: 07 September 2012, 12:10 »
fuel rail from the bam? with green bosch injectors or is it the red saab injectors?

Why mess about changing injectors?
BAM or AMK injectors are good for 280 BHP...so if you are keeping the K04, you won't need more than standard BAM/AMK injectors.

You will be lucky to see much more than 250 on a basic St1 map on a K04 engine...260+ with more mods...and 270+ if you are really pushing it.
280 is possible, just. But you are running stupidly high EGTs and the injector 'on' times are getting marginal.
250 BHP in a Mk3 makes for a fast car...
The trouble with turning the boost up on a K04 engine is that the torque spikes early, unless you mape carefully to stop it...and it'll overwhelm the grip a Mk3 chassis can provide...so you end up with a wheelspin monster...or you gear it so high that the extra power is pointless.


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well the agu has bigger bore intake and bam has the forged bottom end.

BAM or AMK have the stronger bottom end.


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was talking with my mate bizzle yesterday and he said most people do that.

I've never heard of it. Unless running a bigger turbo than a K04, and on a better turbo manifold, the bigger port head won't give you much. The cams and K04 hold back the flow...not the size of the ports.
If you want a K04 engine...just go buy a AMK/BAM.

If you want to run a bigger turbo, then you will be moving more air with the turbo, so high boost won't always be required...so maybe you don't need the stronger bottom end.

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Re: agu head with bam bottom end
« Reply #8 on: 07 September 2012, 13:35 »
thanks for that peeps. Just needed to see what you guys had to say about that. Il stick with agu as i dont think il need more that 250 horses.
So with a mapped agu running a k04 with front intercooler and 007 tip il be running at how much power?
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Re: agu head with bam bottom end
« Reply #9 on: 07 September 2012, 13:54 »
Should be looking for 260hp

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