Author Topic: Do wishbones need to be torque up  (Read 3681 times)

Offline Gambit

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Re: Do wishbones need to be torque up
« Reply #10 on: 20 July 2012, 22:41 »
If you noticed the rear wishbone bushes had voids on them, tt ones are solid rubber, make a decent difference without any compromise on comfort or increased vibration. Cheap mod also, only about 22 for a pair

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Re: Do wishbones need to be torque up
« Reply #11 on: 20 July 2012, 22:58 »
Ok thanks gambit il bear them in mind next time ;)

Offline DOA

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Re: Do wishbones need to be torque up
« Reply #12 on: 22 July 2012, 11:45 »
They're control arms, not wishbones.

No, as they are a one piece item they can happily be referred to as a wishbone (in reference to the shape being similar to the bone found in a chicken, but then, you knew that  :wink:). A track control arm is usually part of a two piece assembly which consists of a track control arm and a radius rod/compression strut. That is all......

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Re: Do wishbones need to be torque up
« Reply #13 on: 23 July 2012, 16:54 »
I guess VW are wrong using the term 'control arm' in ETKA then.  :huh:
Just because you're offended doesn't make you right.

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Re: Do wishbones need to be torque up
« Reply #14 on: 23 July 2012, 17:11 »
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Re: Do wishbones need to be torque up
« Reply #15 on: 23 July 2012, 17:12 »
whats the bit coming from the steering rack.

i call the inner bit the tie rod and end is the track rod end, should i call the inner bit a track rod or the end piece a tie rod.

doesn't make much difference i suppose

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Re: Do wishbones need to be torque up
« Reply #16 on: 23 July 2012, 20:31 »
I guess VW are wrong using the term 'control arm' in ETKA then.  :huh:

Guess you didnt notice the use of the word "usually" in my post when describing a control arm then? Either is perfectly acceptable to me and other trained Engineers around the world in this case, telling people they have it wrong when they don't though is not  :smiley:.

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Re: Do wishbones need to be torque up
« Reply #17 on: 23 July 2012, 21:19 »
Right, Mk2 Golf uses McPhearson strut suspension system, and not Wishbone suspension! there is a huge difference! and should not be confused...
The "Track control arm" on a Mk2 only vaguely resembles a Wishbone, this is because it has 2 inner pick up points that attach to the subframe, reason for the dual mounting is to do away with a "Tie Rod" read cost cutting!

Wishbone suspension is normally found on more expensive, and especially on performance cars, and is on its way to being infinitely adjustable, its a more dynamic system...

The rod that protrudes from the steering rack, is called a "Steering Arm" this is attached to the steering rack via a ball joint, and is secured with a ball joint nut. The other end has the "Track Rod End" attached to it...

All these parts are designed to be sacrificial, meaning that they are designed to deform in a minor collision, or impact

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Re: Do wishbones need to be torque up
« Reply #18 on: 24 July 2012, 20:11 »
Ah the joys of correcting the DH.....

Thanks for the description of a Mcpherson strut setup Thom, I would never have appreciated its intricacies without your input  :rolleyes:. Looks like I need to go back and re-do my degree then as I must have it all wrong.......

Anyway, Im off to tell BMW that they have called their control arms the wrong thing in their ETKA thanks to being enlightened by the suspension guru's that live here on this great forum. So odd that they should use both the term wishbone and control arm in it for exactly the same thing   :grin:.


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Re: Do wishbones need to be torque up
« Reply #19 on: 24 July 2012, 22:05 »
Ah the joys of correcting the DH.....

Thanks for the description of a Mcpherson strut setup Thom, I would never have appreciated its intricacies without your input  :rolleyes:. Looks like I need to go back and re-do my degree then as I must have it all wrong.......

Anyway, Im off to tell BMW that they have called their control arms the wrong thing in their ETKA thanks to being enlightened by the suspension guru's that live here on this great forum. So odd that they should use both the term wishbone and control arm in it for exactly the same thing   :grin:.



"Track control arm" describes what it is, and what it does.
"Wishbone" has become generic, like Hoover

But with a Degree, you'd already know that.

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