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Christo77

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Re: Coil spring knowledge sought..
« Reply #10 on: 27 June 2012, 23:33 »
Hi.. yep shocks a couple of years old but very few miles done on them and when removing the rears for adjustment the damper rods still function as of new.
The ride however is solid, the suspension travel does give but only made to work in evidence when going over speed humps and the like.
The rear of the car pogo's over bumps and the front bangs with a taught wobble over bumps.. there's no absorbtion going on over your every day road surfaces.
If you have a feeling for these things you can tell that the springs are overpowering the action of the shocks, assuming the shocks are in good condition, which they are.

I have the factory long beach alloy wheels and again i don't plan on changing those really..

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Re: Coil spring knowledge sought..
« Reply #11 on: 28 June 2012, 10:04 »
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« Reply #12 on: 28 June 2012, 11:49 »
If you want comfort return to standard,

Ive never been if a car with aftermarket suspension that I can call comfy.

I have.
My S3 was on H&R springs, Bilstein dampers and Neuspeed ARBs and it was more compliant than standard, less crashy, had a better low speed ride and handled far better.

My Mk6 GTI on VW Racing springs and ACC dampers is more compliant than a standard GTI on standard springs/passive dampers.

I'd suggest that the Eibach springs are not progressive wound...so tend to be a bit harsh.
Perhaps a swap to H&R progressive wound springs would remove some of the harshness?

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Re: Coil spring knowledge sought..
« Reply #13 on: 28 June 2012, 12:01 »
Pretty sure the eibach are progressive.
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« Reply #14 on: 28 June 2012, 12:44 »
Pretty sure the eibach are progressive.

The ones I had on my ITR weren't.
Maybe they offer both.

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Christo77

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« Reply #15 on: 28 June 2012, 14:18 »
It's another thing that would explain the harsh ride i guess, a non progressive sport spring.. but in all honesty when handling/fitting the springs i didn't notice the progressive type wound, i do remember thinking these things are firkin solid and aint goin to move much!

One begins to think that maybe i have the wrong springs! only that i made sure they were the correct items at the time.

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Re: Coil spring knowledge sought..
« Reply #16 on: 29 June 2012, 09:18 »
I also thought they were progressively wound, I know the ones I bought had it written on the box.

This thread would suggest that not all of them are though
 http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/topic/77338-eibach-springs/

Christo77

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« Reply #17 on: 29 June 2012, 14:50 »
Yep.. although there's obviously some confusion going around and moreso going by the link there, just read some of it..

Anyway when i take these eibachs off i'm going to melt them down to nothing in a furnace, such is the irritation they are causing me!
So if anyone wants them for nothing.. just ask lol
Supposing that i can find the right replacement spring or go buy the stock vw setup.

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Re: Coil spring knowledge sought..
« Reply #18 on: 29 June 2012, 15:43 »
The stock set up is bloody awful though and gives you a ridiculous arch gap.
I really don't think the problem is entirely down to the springs, your struts will be a lot stiffer than the standard oil filled crap that it left the factory with originally. I couldn't believe the difference when I compared mine to the Weitec Ultra GT struts that went on mine.

Christo77

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Re: Coil spring knowledge sought..
« Reply #19 on: 29 June 2012, 16:05 »
Well what i mean is the whole vw spring and shocks, not put standard springs on koni shocks, wouldn't work would it..
I know your right about those arches, back to the 4X4 look! not nice but i'm running out of options.

The vw new stock suspension isn't that expensive considering..  i bet those Weitec's are lotsa lotsa..

Don't get me wrong, i like the stance i have at present, it looks right without being an obvious sport suspension job and they are relatively quality items... it must be my age though as i can't live with the jiggly jiggly bang hop crunch ride.