Coil spring knowledge sought..

[Christo77]

Hi.. my suspension setup is supposed to be good but i hate it!
Much too harsh.. Koni Sport Adjst. and Eibach Pro Kit springs.. it's the bloody springs that are the problem.

Can i ask does anyone run on a softer type spring? or does anyone use the Koni springs with Koni shocks?

I get a double bounce going over big dips or bumps and smaller bumps the car seems to crash into them.
From what i've heard the Eibachs are too tightly coiled for any degree of comfort, and it shows.

I'd like to walk along the stocks in europerformance and actually look at the springs, just spoke to them but not much help at all.

Any clued up guys? please help 

[madmanmart]

If you want comfort return to standard,

Ive never been if a car with aftermarket suspension that I can call comfy.

[tweed]

If you want comfort return to standard,

Ive never been if a car with aftermarket suspension that I can call comfy.

Just what I was going to say.

Springs and shocks work together. Not a good idea to have soft springs and firm shocks

[Christo77]

Your right, and thanks for the responses..
I guess i was hoping the koni springs might be a tad more giving,  no one knows or uses them it seems so there's little to go on, and.. i was hoping to still use the koni shocks.

With this setup even hiting cats eyes throws the car off balance momentarily, you feel like you've lost control, only on absolute smooth roads does the setup do any justice.. i don't know if that's the norm with these things?  but well.. i hoped for better really.


Christo

[thai-wronghorse]

Are the shocks set at their softest setting?
Did you cut your bump stops down when you installed the suspension as if you're sitting on them it'll restrict movement and damping.

[Christo77]

Hi, good to see your still about 
But yep.. on softest settings, tried them on halfway between etc, a pain taking the whole rear shock off to do them/reset as you know i'm sure..
Bumpstops cut right down.. i know what you mean though, that would explain the bouncy harsh ride if so..
All new top mounts used and new rubber spring seats.

I've been mulling this thing over for some time now.. you convince yourself it must be good what with the expense and effort of fitting/tracking front wheels and all that, i'm pretty sure i thought yeah this is great' when first fitted.. but now i get back from every drive thinking 'this is friggin rubbish'

I've even started to note the cracks and bumps on my regular routs so as to steer around them!  can't be right surely 

Christo

[GolfGL]

Hi, on my last mk3 i had a h&r cup kit with boge turbo gas shocks, and i hated the ride when i wasnt thrashing it. on my last car i had a 30mm weitec ultra gt kit and with low profile 18s it was as good a compromise as i could have expeccted and i would.definitely put them on my current mk3 with the higher sidewall of the 15s.
Adam

[Christo77]

Cheers for the info there.. Yep i tried the boge's with the Eibachs, not nice at all and i probably don't want to go for a whole new suspension kit, that is unless i know exactly what i'm going to get and it's proved to be a problem, you hear and read a lot of stuff but it's all subjective, one persons performance/comfort compromise may be at a different place on the guage to someone elses.

It could be back to standard for me.

Did try running with about 22psi tyre pressures alround    it did help just a bit! hehe..  but then going back to correct pressures you realise how much road noise you were carrying with under inflated tyres.

[kahunajb]

Difficult one this as you don't know what any setup is going to be like until you try it. I have heard very good things about your setup and run a similar one myself but with the eibach sportline springs instead. It's not too bad but is harsher than I thought it would be. Blistein shocks are supposed to be even better than the koni but would be an expensive gamble and I would bet would still be similar to the ones you have now.

How old are your shocks? If you are getting a double bounce suggests to me they may be worn and not dampening properly.

As has already been said I doubt a setup exists that is comfortable, looks good and performs well and it is a matter of compromise.

[kahunajb]

If you run 16" wheels changing to 15" with bigger tyres may help however I much prefer the looks of 16".