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Offline Wayne

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Re: wheel adaptors
« Reply #10 on: 26 June 2012, 10:59 »
VW didn't decide that the GTI/VR6s needed 5 M14 bolts to hold the wheels on instead of 4 M12 bolts, for no reason.

Does anybody else think that downgrading from 5 x M14 bolts to 4 x M12 bolts seems somewhat stupid and could have insurance implications?


Agreed, hence why I would suggest getting wheels that fit.

Offline wheatobear

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Re: wheel adaptors
« Reply #11 on: 26 June 2012, 17:23 »
they dont make the wheels i want in 5x100

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Re: wheel adaptors
« Reply #12 on: 26 June 2012, 18:44 »
Another option is to get the wheels welded & re-drilled.

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Re: wheel adaptors
« Reply #13 on: 26 June 2012, 18:57 »
Another option is to get the wheels welded & re-drilled.



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Offline Wayne

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Re: wheel adaptors
« Reply #14 on: 26 June 2012, 20:53 »
they dont make the wheels i want in 5x100

Find some that you like in 5x100, going to be a lot easier.
« Last Edit: 11 July 2012, 23:46 by Wayne »

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Re: wheel adaptors
« Reply #15 on: 26 June 2012, 22:44 »
just a question, about the whole reason they put 5 stud of gti and 4 stud on CL why would that be then? i mean some people convert there 4 stud mk2 to a vr6 engine others have done the same with a 4 stud mk3. so this makes me think maybe VW done it just to make the GTi/VR6 Different yet the same in everyway they could. IE heated seats in a vr6 crap seats in a CL? could i no be right? unless someone has some proven claim that the wheels will fall off if you convert a 5 stud gti to a 4 stud?
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Re: wheel adaptors
« Reply #16 on: 26 June 2012, 22:53 »
Golf GTi = 2.0i 8v 115bhp with 5 stud wheels

Golf Avant Garde Cabrio = 2.0i 8v 115bhp with 4 stud wheels

This can't be a safety issue as the Cabrio weighs more and has heavier duty rear springs and more stress on the hubs/wheels, I could convert to 5 stud with no issues and many Cabrio owners have already so why converting the other way for a GTi owner be an issue???

Only problem you'll have is 4 stud cars have drum brakes at the rear and you'll need to use disc brakes for a Golf mk2 or better still a 4 stud Seat Ibiza Cupra R. plus you could go big brakes up front from the Cupra R which gives you 305mm disc's.
« Last Edit: 26 June 2012, 22:58 by dubstar9 »

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Re: wheel adaptors
« Reply #17 on: 26 June 2012, 23:56 »
just a question, about the whole reason they put 5 stud of gti and 4 stud on CL why would that be then? i mean some people convert there 4 stud mk2 to a vr6 engine others have done the same with a 4 stud mk3. so this makes me think maybe VW done it just to make the GTi/VR6 Different yet the same in everyway they could. IE heated seats in a vr6 crap seats in a CL? could i no be right? unless someone has some proven claim that the wheels will fall off if you convert a 5 stud gti to a 4 stud?

All GTI's and VR's had the plus susp set up with 5 stud wheels.


This can't be a safety issue as the Cabrio weighs more and has heavier duty rear springs and more stress on the hubs/wheels, I could convert to 5 stud with no issues and many Cabrio owners have already so why converting the other way for a GTi owner be an issue???

Maybe you think it is not a safety issue however an insurance company may view it in a different light, converting to 5 stud means your making it better, switching the other way could be viewed as unsafe as you are taking strength away.


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Re: wheel adaptors
« Reply #18 on: 27 June 2012, 10:16 »
Pointless downgrade. Find different wheels.

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Re: wheel adaptors
« Reply #19 on: 27 June 2012, 13:26 »

All GTI's and VR's had the plus susp set up with 5 stud wheels.

I'm pleased someone else spotted that...

not to mention the bigger ARBs, stiffer bodyshell and hence more stress on the hubs, bearings and wheel bolts.

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