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Offline bobotheclown

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Re: England team.........
« Reply #30 on: 25 June 2012, 21:12 »
I think that it should be seriously looked at how Spain managed to become world beaters and try and mimic what they did.

Not play like them, but to pick a style of football (whether it's total or long ball) and choose a team that can perfect that style be be brilliant at it. It doesn't have to be a team full of galactico's, because that never works out. Pick players that can play the chosen system well. Seems simple but so is football.

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Re: England team.........
« Reply #31 on: 25 June 2012, 22:27 »
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Re: England team.........
« Reply #32 on: 25 June 2012, 22:43 »
crap manager?? because we went out to a very good italy side, shut up mate. its the players who let England down not the manager tacitly England were very well set out.
pirlo ran the show last night for italy who played the long ball system very well.

Can you please just explain to me who was italys best player last night and who was marking him... because whoever it was wasnt within 20m of him all night.

This manager has one tactic and its to bore the other team to death. what has he ever done thats good for any team?? He talks down every team he has ever managed then basks in gloy when they win when not expected. let me sum up englands campaign for you.

FRANCE - played well defensively, hung on for a draw

SWEDEN - poor defensively and theo scored a goal which any decent keeper would have saved. even he didnt know how a shot down the centre of goal went in.

ITALY - defended reasonably but after the first 20mins they had been snuffed out. Italy made the tactical changes necessary and didnt have to play a single long ball in the second half becasue they were never in their own half.

I have said it before and i will say it again.. the man is a one trick pony and the FA are about to find out the hard way!!

Tactics - the man simply has none. let me hihglight his tactics for you

Played an unfit rooney because he didnt have the balls to play anyone else.

Played milner (on the right of midfield) because reporters questioned him on Johnsons defensive capabilities. When johnson was probably one of englands best defenders overall.

Went on a about a 23 man sqaud... how many of those did he use??

Downing - enough said

Ashley young... well I have said it a million times and I will say it again. This guy can not play in a rigid system and was exposed for the fake he is.

One thing all strikers thrive on are crosses... in fact all englands goals (apart from walcotts) came from balls from out wide into the danger area. how many of those were put in by the wingers? none... because the wingers didnt put a decent ball in between them.

Me personally would of had a totally different approach to penalties! As the manager you do the homework as to where your players put their last 10 penatlies and then YOUtell them where you want them to put the ball. Its as simple as that!!

Ashley cole has taken one penatly before and it was the same place it was saved this time by Buffon. Coincidence???? I doubt it... if the opposition can work this stuff out then so can the manager.

Cappello was the best thing to happen to this england team... and they got rid of him simply because they wanted an english manager.

Well there you go FA.. you got your man... enjoy!

As an employer of people.. i dont hire people based on where they are from. I hire on ability alone... as does every club side which won a majoy honour this year and the last 20 years in top flight football in every league in europe. I wonder why that is  :rolleyes:

Next time you wish tell me to 'shut up' when it comes to football... then make sure you come better prepared.  :smiley:

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Re: England team.........
« Reply #33 on: 25 June 2012, 23:14 »
Roy Hodgson took over a disorganised rabble who looked unlikely to get out of their group and turned them into an organised rabble who did.

Before the tournament reaching the quarter finals was about the best that could have been expected, so we have delivered to expectations.

It feels worse because having got into a winning position in the penalty shoot out, the big time charlies bottled it.

"Cappello was the best thing to happen to this england team" what aload of crap.

so SHUT UP nuff said.

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Re: England team.........
« Reply #34 on: 25 June 2012, 23:25 »
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which england manager had a better record than capello?

the only reason they expected to get knocked out at the 1/4 finals was because thats what the old fool woy told you!

if those same 11 players were to be sold by their clubs tomorrow they would command a fee in excess of £200M!

The reason england always lose penalties is very easy to figure out.... because they play for them by hoping some devine right they will win one and justice will be restored. How many times have england played a team off the park them lost on penalties.... none!

Roy Hodgson took over a disorganised rabble who looked unlikely to get out of their group and turned them into an organised rabble who did.

dude... seriously wtf are you talking about  :laugh:

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Re: England team.........
« Reply #35 on: 25 June 2012, 23:29 »
I was fuming about no one bothering to mark Pirlo all night.

Every single person watching the game last night and before the game knew to beat Italy or to control the game more, you need to stop Pirlo.

Did Woy bother to set anything up to do this..no. All game Pirlo had as much time and space as he wanted to pass the ball to who and where he wanted. Look at the stats...

Pirlo did 131 passes last night,  87 more than the nearest English player. That for me shows Woy's tactics were completely wrong. He did nothing all game to stop him running the show.

We was very very lucky it went to pens last night, Italy had 31 shots to England's 8 shots and if Mario had his shooting boots on or the post did not save us, we could of easily lost 3/4-0 last night.

I don't buy in to all this sh!te about how Italy are a great side..maybe 6/8 years ago yes, now? Not really, their manager before the Euro's had less expectations than we did.

The fact is , as always with England the tactics were completely wrong.

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Re: England team.........
« Reply #36 on: 25 June 2012, 23:51 »
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New balls please!

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« Reply #37 on: 25 June 2012, 23:58 »
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Re: England team.........
« Reply #38 on: 26 June 2012, 09:54 »
Hodgson has been in the job two months. TWO FCUKING MONTHS!

What did he have to work with exactly? And for how long?

Hodgson organised a fairly poor bunch of players into a team that were hard to break down. We beat two average sides in Ukraine and Sweden and drew against two teams who are better than us in France and Italy.

I don't honestly know what more he could have done, and going out on penalties in the quarters is a decent enough performance, all things considered

If we're still playing backs to the wall stuff in two years in Brazil then fair enough, some criticism and questions will be valid.

For now, I want to know exactly what England were expected to achieve in their performances and group games given the circumstances.

Offline Kerrse

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Re: England team.........
« Reply #39 on: 26 June 2012, 09:58 »
Best thing for England to do is get rid of all the old players & start again from scratch, they have no chance of winning the world cup so what have they got to lose !