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Re: Southwell Classic Car/Bike Show & Waterskiing in Laneham.
« Reply #30 on: 08 June 2012, 15:37 »
You could use the CPL, also useful for car shots to cut refelctions.

Also don't use IS for panning. You may need to get closer, do you have a telephoto lens?

If you can get close to the skier then you could go with the quick exposure to freeze the person/water or go for panning.
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Re: Southwell Classic Car/Bike Show & Waterskiing in Laneham.
« Reply #31 on: 08 June 2012, 15:45 »
I dont have a telephoto lens yet as its not at the top of my list as i wont be taking too many of these kind of shots very often but wondered how i could get them looking with my kit lens and a few setting tweaks.

I will use the cpl filter at the big American car show im going to in July and try it out.Am i ok with a Hama cpl filter as it wasnt the most expensive out there and i dont want it to effect the overall image quality?

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Re: Southwell Classic Car/Bike Show & Waterskiing in Laneham.
« Reply #32 on: 08 June 2012, 15:47 »
That what I have I think, to be honest I don't use it enough....

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Re: Southwell Classic Car/Bike Show & Waterskiing in Laneham.
« Reply #33 on: 08 June 2012, 15:55 »
Ah thats ok then. :smiley: Thanks
Any ideas on my previous comment?
On a different note ive recently bought a lens hood but when i attach it,whenever the lens autofocus' the bloody thing turns round  am i doing something very amaturish?Do i need to set it to manual focus or something?

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Re: Southwell Classic Car/Bike Show & Waterskiing in Laneham.
« Reply #34 on: 08 June 2012, 19:55 »
Ah thats ok then. :smiley: Thanks
Any ideas on my previous comment?
On a different note ive recently bought a lens hood but when i attach it,whenever the lens autofocus' the bloody thing turns round  am i doing something very amaturish?Do i need to set it to manual focus or something?

Is it a petal lens hood?
Like this:

If it is, it's next to useless if it turns with the focusing. With kit lenses the focus ring (the bit you turn to manual focus) tends to be at the front of the lens and has the thread for filters and hoods.
A lot of kit lenses come with a straight lens hood which is fine even if it turns with focusing.

As for the Hama filter; a lot of people say don't put cheap filters onto lenses, but on a kit lens I doubt you'd see much difference between a £10 filter and a £30 filter.
I have a cheap Sunpak CPL filter that I bought as a last resort on holiday that I use on my kit lens (but I rarely use my kit lens now) and it's fine. I have a better Hoya one for my 50mm, but I haven't bothered with one for my other lenses.
I've not really found a CPL useful for cutting down reflections as it only does that at certain angles, but I have used it nicely to expose the sky nicely on a bright day.

I would personally get your 50mm lens and then get a telephoto because otherwise you've got nothing longer than 55mm on your kit lens. You can easily pick up a decent 70-200 or 300mm Tamron or Sigma lens for less than £150. Even if you don't use it much, it's worth having something like this in the bag for the odd occasion when you need a zoom.
You could also upgrade your kit lens for a slightly better one with IS like the Canon 17-85mm EF-S IS USM: £180 on ebay and it gives you a bit more telephoto length.

And if you haven't watched these tips, do so now. (Note the bit about filters, expensive gear and lens hoods): http://youtu.be/D4HbWhri7Tc
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Re: Southwell Classic Car/Bike Show & Waterskiing in Laneham.
« Reply #35 on: 08 June 2012, 20:12 »
Thanks mate.

Yes it is the petal type.If im honest i got it as i thought it looked good. :embarassed:
Ive not found a use for it yet but then again everytime i used it i kept getting the longer petals buzzing in and out of the view. :grin:

Im pleased the fact i didnt get a silly expensive filter hasnt hindered the pic quality.

Ive not seen that vid but i will have a squiz tonight.
Ive read that last website on car photography tips in its entirety and really enjoyed the info on there so cheers for that.

As for a telephoto,i think once ive had a play with the 50mm for a month or so i will get one after getting a few comparisons on the best one to get for around £2-250 so im not hindered by poor quality at long zoom lengths like ive read can happen.

Ive considered getting the is type kit lens but i wasnt sure how much of a difference it would make as i cant seem to find 2 pics the same taken with the different lens to compare.

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Re: Southwell Classic Car/Bike Show & Waterskiing in Laneham.
« Reply #36 on: 09 June 2012, 08:33 »
dpreview.com have a lens comparison tool: http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/lenses


Here's my example of a lens comparison:
Kit lens top left, 50mm f1.7 prime top right, Sigma 28-70mm f2.8 (which I use now instead of a kit lens) bottom left and Tamron 28-200 zoom bottom right.


Lens Comparison: Nifty-fifty versus... by AlistairBeavis, on Flickr

And cropped at 100%

Lens Comparison 100% crop by AlistairBeavis, on Flickr

You can see that the 50mm prime and the Sigma 28-70 are sharper than the kit lens.

I'm sure there are other better examples.

Here's a comparison of the Canon 17-55mm lenses, the one you've got upto the super expensive f2.8 model.
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-S-18-55mm-f-3.5-5.6-IS-Lens-Review.aspx