Interesting article about mk7 GTI

[Jimmymature]

There was an article in auto express saying the bhp on the new GTI will be higher than first thought so it can compete with Ford and Vux

Again I don't believe this either. Since when have VW chased the BHP of its competitors?   The VXR is going to be a torque steering monster and the ST is going to be quicker but what do VW care?

The GTI will have less power than them all but it won't stop the likes of us getting one as GTI owners want an all rounder.....

Jim

[GolfTi]

There was an article in auto express saying the bhp on the new GTI will be higher than first thought so it can compete with Ford and Vux

Again I don't believe this either. Since when have VW chased the BHP of its competitors?   The VXR is going to be a torque steering monster and the ST is going to be quicker but what do VW care?

The GTI will have less power than them all but it won't stop the likes of us getting one as GTI owners want an all rounder.....

Jim

^^ +1
I was just about to post on this, but then you just said it all.

[AndyG]

I agree about extra power in the mk7.I have yet to push mine to anywhere near its full potential so would never be tempted to go for a Ford or Vauxhall because they are faster,it's the all round package and heritage of being the original hot hatch that the other makes only dream of.I never look at one of these wishing I had one.

[Radek]

Also don't forget the manufacturers have to limit CO2 emissions from 2015 to 130g/km, otherwise they will pay a lot of money as a penalty (90 euro for each gram above that for each car). 260 bhp will produce a lot more CO2 than 220...
R with 270 bhp (with an old engine) makes 190 g/km, that's 5400 euro per car.

[andykram]

The GTI will have less power than them all but it won't stop the likes of us getting one as GTI owners want an all rounder.....

Wrong - it WILL put me off because I'll have got to the point when I'm no longer convinced of the "value" of a near £30k VW "hot" hatch when there's far better/classier machinery around for the same money.

See previous discussion on the BMW 135, for example.

[GolfTi]

VW will price the GTI just right. They always do.
Herr/Frau VW ain't daft.


Targeted above Ford/French/mainstream Japanese/Opel and below other German marques.

Better and classier machinery around? You'll be very interested come 2013/14.


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[ScottA]

VW will price the GTI just right. They always do.
Herr/Frau VW ain't daft.


Targeted above Ford/French/mainstream Japanese/Opel and below other German marques.

Better and classier machinery around? You'll be very interested come 2013/14.


135

+1

[Jimmymature]

The GTI will have less power than them all but it won't stop the likes of us getting one as GTI owners want an all rounder.....

Wrong - it WILL put me off because I'll have got to the point when I'm no longer convinced of the "value" of a near £30k VW "hot" hatch when there's far better/classier machinery around for the same money.

See previous discussion on the BMW 135, for example.

Whilst I wrote that quote, I also agree with you. I for one will not be getting a MK7 GTI, M135i seems to be a massive amount of fun/power for your money.


Jim

[mkviken]

I won't be gettig a mk7. No way. I like my car but it's not worth £27300. Can't help but feel I could have done ALOT better for the money.

They're going in the right direction if they make it 100kg lighter but they can't justify the price they're asking. The competion is moving forward at a quicker pace now in terms of quality, value and driving/ownership.

Ford are right on the money recently and the new ST will take some beating for value/build/performance and drive. the new clio sport is due, a new megane sport won't be far behind that, BMW m135i is excellent value and will be a real performance car as well as practical.

I wouldn't be laying IRO £30k for a hatch back again in a hurry but if I do it will be the Beemer or save myself £15k and get another Clio or 2.

[mkviken]

I agree about extra power in the mk7.I have yet to push mine to anywhere near its full potential so would never be tempted to go for a Ford or Vauxhall because they are faster,it's the all round package and heritage of being the original hot hatch that the other makes only dream of.I never look at one of these wishing I had one.

I must be different. Every time I see a RS265/RS250 or focus RS I always think to myself he's having more fun than me for less money.