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Offline Saint Steve

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Re: ED30 MPG
« Reply #10 on: 28 May 2012, 20:02 »
I just had mine serviced and noticed a considerable increase in mpg... bonus  :laugh:


let me know and mine may be up for sale then  :wink:

Thats the warmer weather  :wink:

it should actually run better during cold weather.  :huh:

Er no, cold air equals more fuel request unfortunately ... Cold fresh air gives better performance, thus will use greater fuel request to boot.
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Re: ED30 MPG
« Reply #11 on: 01 June 2012, 10:15 »
Lifetime average fuel consumption for my old ED30 was 18.7mpg over 30k miles. Although my old ED30 was far from average :laugh:
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Re: ED30 MPG
« Reply #12 on: 06 June 2012, 08:34 »
I just had mine serviced and noticed a considerable increase in mpg... bonus  :laugh:


let me know and mine may be up for sale then  :wink:

Thats the warmer weather  :wink:

it should actually run better during cold weather.  :huh:

Er no, cold air equals more fuel request unfortunately ... Cold fresh air gives better performance, thus will use greater fuel request to boot.

Im not sure I follow. If the air is colder i.e. more dense, then should the engine not run more efficiently? I can see why it would use more fuel if it was pedal to the metal, but for everyday driving would you not see increased mpg?

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Re: ED30 MPG
« Reply #13 on: 06 June 2012, 10:02 »
I was about to try and write this all myself but then tought someone else can do a better a job so looked on Google

All vehicles have an optimum operating temperature, and the colder it is, the longer it takes to get there. While modern engines make very efficient use of the fuel mixture entering the engine, they rely upon the oxygen sensor to monitor the O2 content of the exhaust, as well as sensors for manifold pressure, mass air flow, throttle position, and coolant temperature, among others. All of this information is communicated to the vehicle’s computer that continually adjusts ignition and valve timing as well as fuel injector pulse width, to fine tune the amount of fuel delivered to each cylinder. This is done many times per second. But here’s the caveat—this engine-management system is only at tip-top efficiency when the engine is at full operating temperature. And when the mercury’s showing low, all vehicles require longer periods of time to reach that full operating temperature—and it’s in that warm-up period that efficiency is lost.

Add to that the common practice of making short trips (to minimize running to and fro in sub-zero temps and wind chills), and each time your vehicle cools down it has to come back up to optimal operating temperature. It all takes its toll.


There are also loads of little things like using the heater, the windscreen electric heater, the heated seats and the colder temperature also lowers your tyre PSI, all the little things then add up to take away that extra MPG.

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Re: ED30 MPG
« Reply #14 on: 06 June 2012, 12:43 »
So... if in both situations the car is upto running temp. Which would run more economically?? in cold or warmer air?

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Re: ED30 MPG
« Reply #15 on: 06 June 2012, 12:51 »
Warmer, colder air means its more dense which means there is more oxygen which means there is more combustion which means there is more power which means more fuel is used.

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Re: ED30 MPG
« Reply #16 on: 06 June 2012, 13:08 »
Warmer, colder air means its more dense which means there is more oxygen which means there is more combustion which means there is more power which means more fuel is used.

Prof Brian Cox doesnt have sh!t on me.

Im not so sure... more power available from the fuel used would mean that you would need less 'go' to achieve the same speeds.  :undecided:

Anyway... what do you know diesel boy  :laugh:

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Re: ED30 MPG
« Reply #17 on: 06 June 2012, 14:44 »
FFS this whole diesel thing better not catch on.

Its still 6 months till the poxy thing arrives.

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Re: ED30 MPG
« Reply #18 on: 06 June 2012, 17:03 »
Warmer, colder air means its more dense which means there is more oxygen which means there is more combustion which means there is more power which means more fuel is used.

Prof Brian Cox doesnt have sh!t on me.


Alan , you are correct


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Re: ED30 MPG
« Reply #19 on: 06 June 2012, 17:04 »
warmer air temps will result in the engine getting to optimal temp quicker, thus resulting in more efficient fuel economy.

Colder days will do the reverse . ECU will alter the amount of fuel induced Due to the density of the air being more dense.

Gilly, if you still don't understand, then google performance of a petrol engine in terms of efficiency fella.

I can't think of a better way to explain it. All I know is I get at least 3mpg better dueing the summer months. :nerd:
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