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Re: Japans 4th reactor on verge of collapse
« Reply #60 on: 01 May 2012, 20:40 »
Nuclear power is safe, just sadly natural disaster and/or poor health and safety with such a great hazard is what has caused mistakes. Nuclear energy is very clean and productive, even the environmental impact of radiation of where it is produced is minimum. For instance you get more radiation exposure standing in cornwall due to the granite than you would standing next to a nuclear powerstation such as dungeoness.

The earth does have a natural weather cycle that oselates from hot to cold, proven many times. However co2 does act as a catalyst, however I am still not sure what way its causing the change due to two stories, global warming and global cooling. Releasing so much co2 is bound to do something, look at the history of the earth, such as when the volcano near crete went off several thousand years ago, the huge levels of sulfur caused the entire globe to cool down several degree's in the summer and created much harsher winters as a consequence.

We will hit an energy crysis such as the oil peak sooner or later due to the ever increasing energy demand and global population growth. As the famous saying goes:
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"We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children." - Native American Song

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"Compound interest is the most powerful force in the universe." - Albert Einstein
Now imagine using compound interest as a reusable energy  :grin: :lipsrsealed:


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Re: Japans 4th reactor on verge of collapse
« Reply #61 on: 01 May 2012, 20:41 »
Use up Fossil fuels asap, then they cant do anymore damage, simple!

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Re: Japans 4th reactor on verge of collapse
« Reply #62 on: 01 May 2012, 20:45 »
Modern nuclear power coupled with solar and good use of other 'green' technology together with much more efficient transport/homes/factories and offices will all help to slow the inevitable point where natural resources are depleted but, like i said..we all have to do it.

People won't change on there own though, thats a given, would take something drastic to change our ways. Like us all being killed for a start!!
Then its business as usual then.. and i blame the hippies in nasty dirty beetles and 2cv's. :grin:

Aye we'll be long gone anyway before karma comes around. There is this famous saying in my country. It reads, ''f**k Um''

But seriously, I used to have vision of a completely self sustainable planet. It would work if there was no people on it :grin:. Its all in the mindset, how your relationship with nature works. I think people need to be more educated and understand that the earth and themselves are part of the same thing, like old Icke once quoted, we are one!!


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Re: Japans 4th reactor on verge of collapse
« Reply #63 on: 01 May 2012, 20:46 »
I watched Ice age the other day with my 6 year old they didn't pull cotton wool over her eyes!
She understands it took millions of years to form ice, due to a big rock hitting the planet.
I hate ice melting in my drinks so inconvenient!
I might go to yellow stone park too cook some vegtables in a bag  :lipsrsealed:

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Re: Japans 4th reactor on verge of collapse
« Reply #64 on: 01 May 2012, 20:48 »
Depending on who you believe, the oil 'peak' is between 30 and 70 years away and don't forget that we don't just burn oil, we also rely on it for almost everything we do/use/wear/build in daily life.

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Re: Japans 4th reactor on verge of collapse
« Reply #65 on: 01 May 2012, 21:06 »
Millions and millions of years of most of the planet being covered it trees, forests and vegitation... and we're close to it running out! Horsesh!t :rolleyes:

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Re: Japans 4th reactor on verge of collapse
« Reply #66 on: 01 May 2012, 21:12 »
Millions and millions of years of most of the planet being covered it trees, forests and vegitation... and we're close to it running out! Horsesh!t :rolleyes:

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Look on the bright side, at least most on this forum are putting the fossil fuel in something worthwhile, could be driving a kia or other such horrors.. :grin:

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Re: Japans 4th reactor on verge of collapse
« Reply #67 on: 01 May 2012, 21:48 »
We have had 2 major Nuclear disasters...

chernobyl and f/shima

Chernobyl was caused by Soviet Russians doing some weird experiment that involved confusing primative safety equiptment by manually overriding various features and pressing a button that should never be pressed.

F/shima Nuclear plant pretty much stood up to a magnitude 9 earthquake and then got fecked over by the aftershocks. there was 4 other plants who were in the shake (all be it a lesser magnitude) and all safety features kicked in and prevented anything out of the norm happening other than an auto shutdown.


Nuclear is the way forward but It should be commisioned on an International scale, I.E. you have to ask 'planning permission' and submit all plans to some kind of world court to avoid stuff like this happening (messing about with reactors and building plants on fault lines)


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Re: Japans 4th reactor on verge of collapse
« Reply #68 on: 01 May 2012, 22:14 »
We have had 2 major Nuclear disasters...

chernobyl and f/shima

Chernobyl was caused by Soviet Russians doing some weird experiment that involved confusing primative safety equiptment by manually overriding various features and pressing a button that should never be pressed.

They were doing a test run of safety systems but changed shift and failed to inform the following shift as to what they were doing.... :rolleyes:

F/shima Nuclear plant pretty much stood up to a magnitude 9 earthquake and then got fecked over by the aftershocks. there was 4 other plants who were in the shake (all be it a lesser magnitude) and all safety features kicked in and prevented anything out of the norm happening other than an auto shutdown.

And to be fair, the back up cooling systems and diesel generators both failed and were overrun by sea water and the reactors and cooling ponds still stayed intact...this is a much overlooked fact.


Nuclear is the way forward but It should be commisioned on an International scale, I.E. you have to ask 'planning permission' and submit all plans to some kind of world court to avoid stuff like this happening (messing about with reactors and building plants on fault lines)

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Re: Japans 4th reactor on verge of collapse
« Reply #69 on: 01 May 2012, 22:19 »
And just so you sleep well tonight..the chernobyl reactors are a very outdated RBMK type of reactor of which was poorly designed, badly maintained and inherently unsafe.....there are still several in operation throughout the old soviet union and what remains of it.................sleep tight.
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