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Offline Diamond Hell

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Re: Taxes ?
« Reply #50 on: 18 April 2012, 20:44 »
i only have 2 major quames with him, 1: why oh why is the ark royal rusting in scotland and 2: why is he selling everything to serco

1. because we can't afford to run large armies now we're not a colonial power

2. Because his buddies own it/shares in it.
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Re: Taxes ?
« Reply #51 on: 18 April 2012, 20:58 »
f**k this, when i get some skills and money im bloody moving.

not from the government
not from tax

but from you whiney lot

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Re: Taxes ?
« Reply #52 on: 18 April 2012, 21:05 »
we are an island, you saying we don't need an aircraft carrier? Ark was the last, it was in the best condition. Lusty had been rotting in a port for over 8 months already, so they spent all that money de-coming it then realised oh christ we're an island nation running a war abroad and we have no means to take the fight to them. Then libya happened, and that conmpounded the fact that they completely f**ked it up. You leave your forces on land and sea completely naked without a carrier to protect them. So instead of admitting they were wrong, they spend an obscene amount of money on bringing back rusty lusty when all they had to do was re-suply and re man our FLAGSHIP for less money in less time. I have however spotted 8 mint condition GR7's hiding away in a corner at culdrose so i think there must be some sort of backup plan afoot. I do wish they'd just bring ark back and she'll do another 10 years easy!  :cry:

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Re: Taxes ?
« Reply #53 on: 19 April 2012, 19:32 »
There are sod all ships capable of carrying flag staff anyway. All carriers gone, Albion mothballed, Ocean falling to bits like the last carriers, and the type 22 frigates which were by far the best ships in the fleet, all now stripped and sold for scrap metal! An absolute waste, and I served on Cumberland, Campbeltown, and Chatham. Went on after they had been decommissioned to remove weapons systems and sensors, and it was really surreal. Not a nice feeling being on a completely dead ship, walking round with a head torch with nothing switched on. The government has got caught up in the idea that modern and future warfare is only going to be fought against extremists and terrorists. Thats the reason why they think there is no immediate need for carriers, as Bulwark and Ocean carrying landing craft and troops are where its at. We will therefore only go into an Operational Theatre with other Nato Countries so we can utilise their aircraft capabilities. Unfortunately the Argies are at it again and there is a distinct possibility that we may well require our own. It would be aircraft that would be vital again should they Invade the Falklands. Remember that basically their entire Navy was taken care of with a lone submarine, and their Armed Forces have been subject to massive budget cuts too, and so much so that they are on the point of disbanding. Again though, their air force would be the only cause for concern. Without an carrier platform we have nothing to fight back with tbh. We could probably regain the Islands by landing troops, but we couldn't carry on defending it without air support.
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Re: Taxes ?
« Reply #54 on: 19 April 2012, 19:43 »
Good to see that we get value for money with our defence budget spending

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16428133

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Re: Taxes ?
« Reply #55 on: 19 April 2012, 19:46 »
The 4 Typhoons + one type 45 would destroy what's left of the ageing Arg Air Force just after it left is territorial waters.

Perhaps we could borrow one of the 3 USN - £7 BILLION EACH - Zumwalt class destroyers.

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Re: Taxes ?
« Reply #56 on: 19 April 2012, 20:49 »
Good to see that we get value for money with our defence budget spending

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16428133

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I think what you are missing is the cost for the conflict in Afghanistan tbh.. Those figures are sh!t! You cannot look at china/Russia and compare, simply because of how little they have done on foreign soil recently
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Re: Taxes ?
« Reply #57 on: 19 April 2012, 21:07 »
So that figure is also including the cost of the war in afghan?
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Re: Taxes ?
« Reply #58 on: 19 April 2012, 21:17 »
Those figures are scary/shocking. We'd get creamed in a war these days. f**king Tyspoons can barely hold there own let alone most of the weapons/stores we have at our disposal. Tornados are f**king horse sh!t and fall apart daily and as above we have no carrier to get them places. Our Army/infantry contingent is over stretched albeit probably some of the best trained in the world. The Navy...I don't know much about the Navy TBH, all I know is that a couple of nuclear subs wouldn't be able to stop much when they go tits up eventually and we decide to sell for scrap.

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Re: Taxes ?
« Reply #59 on: 19 April 2012, 21:37 »
The Defense budget will include the cost for Afghanistan yep...
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