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Re: A Wolf in Sheep's clothing?
« Reply #160 on: 24 November 2012, 23:42 »
There are lots of PCV replacement kits on there. If you are looking at keeping the car a long time then go for a catch can system. If you are planning on moving the car on in a few years go for a simple PCV fix by BSH or equivalent. If you are planning WMI, again just go for the BSH PCV fix.

A PCV kit removes the possibility of boost leak as the OEM one can give "blow by" and reduce the boost pressure to the engine and therefore lower power. The most effective kit is the PCV fix kit, which simply pushes the gasses and oil back into the system in a closed loop and therefore removing all possibility of boost leakage from the PCV. The downside is that over time all the crud which the OEM PCV system helps filter through goes back into the engine and builds up quicker on the valves and inlets. A Catch can added to a PCV system will remove all the excess crud and help keep the engine cleaner for longer (hence get one if you are keeping it longer)

Hope this helps. :smiley:

It always helps when you offer feedback John, I really appreciate it fella. I have found a BSH PCV kit, which seems reasonable at £75. Can you link me in on a reasonably priced catch can?

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Re: A Wolf in Sheep's clothing?
« Reply #161 on: 25 November 2012, 00:32 »
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Re: A Wolf in Sheep's clothing?
« Reply #162 on: 25 November 2012, 00:51 »
You need to look at a system that does it all in one. Forge and BSH also do a full PCV system including the catch can.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,16343.0.html


http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,6540.0.html

http://www.bshspeedshop.com/bshstore/products/BSH-%252d-FSI-Competition-Catch-Can-.html

You're a star fella. So the BSH kit seems reasonable and from what I gather not all that time consuming to install. Having said that as I understand it won't pass a standard mot? I can't see anything about the Forge kit, but presume it's the same story?

Just out of interest, would it be wise to get the inlet manifold and inlet valves cleaned up before having the catch can installed, or is that a very expensive process?

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Re: A Wolf in Sheep's clothing?
« Reply #163 on: 26 November 2012, 23:13 »
It is only a problem with MOT's if it vents to atmosphere, which catchcans and PCV fixes don't.

Some people vent it with a filter, but I wouldn't personally.

If your car is running ok now then I wouldn't bother with cleaning the ports and valves before fitting. :smiley:
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Re: A Wolf in Sheep's clothing?
« Reply #164 on: 30 November 2012, 19:17 »
It is only a problem with MOT's if it vents to atmosphere, which catchcans and PCV fixes don't.

Some people vent it with a filter, but I wouldn't personally.

If your car is running ok now then I wouldn't bother with cleaning the ports and valves before fitting. :smiley:

Well I kind of took your advice. I went to my friends garage today and helped him clean the manifold and inlet valves. We checked the intercooler pipes and the inlet pipe on the throttle bottle and there was only the slightest hint of a smear of oil, so just gave them a wipe down.

The inlet valves and little aerofoil like pieces were absolutely caked in sh!t, as were the ends of the injectors. After two hours of taking apart, cleaning with carb cleaner and a toothbrush and putting back together, we were done.

It has completely sorted the rough idle problem I was encountering and the car is a lot smoother at low speeds. I can categorically say that there are no performance gains to speak of. I'm bowled over by just how much sh!t came off the offending items and feel a lot happier with them cleaned. I just can't believe that the TFSI engine continues to run with any assemblance of order with filthy 'coked up' valves and manifold such as I witnessed today.

Here's some photos of the work carried out....








Ps. Finally managed to get my factory engine cover fitted to incorporate the aftermarket cold air induction system. Makes the engine bay look a bit tidier and quietens down those damn noisy injectors!
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Re: A Wolf in Sheep's clothing?
« Reply #165 on: 07 December 2012, 11:28 »
Had a 'ECS' dogbone insert fitted this morning. First impressions are considerably less tedious gear shifts and slightly reduced wheel hop, overall I'm happy thus far, but the verdict is still out. I suppose for £35 and ten minutes to change it's probably worth it.



I'm going in next week or the week after to have the N75 bypassed and to have the boost tweaked again to achieve more mid range torque without having to upgrade the HPFP. Fingers crossed for 300bhp+ and 300lbft+.....

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Re: A Wolf in Sheep's clothing?
« Reply #166 on: 20 December 2012, 18:16 »
Liking alot.  :laugh:

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Re: A Wolf in Sheep's clothing?
« Reply #167 on: 20 December 2012, 19:42 »
Liking alot.  :laugh:

Cheers Jonnym.  :smiley:

Ps. Have you read the whole thread?
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Re: A Wolf in Sheep's clothing?
« Reply #168 on: 21 December 2012, 13:37 »
It is coming on well now. :cool:

Are you thinking of a KO4 or wmi at any point?
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Re: A Wolf in Sheep's clothing?
« Reply #169 on: 21 December 2012, 16:53 »
It is coming on well now. :cool:

Are you thinking of a KO4 or wmi at any point?

No I'm pretty much done thus far. The only things I'd like to change are little tit bits here and there. I do have plans to change the N75 valve or just bypass it altogether, then I may be able to achieve some more mid range torque by getting the boost to hold right to the redline. It would be nice to have 300bhp+ and 300lbft+, rather than 298bhp and 270lbft and to be honest the mid range torque whence already up to speed is the only real part of the power band that I don't think is adequate. Short of making a whole host of other mods to help with traction, (which I don't currently have the money for) I think it's a fair compromise.

Cheers all for paying an interest.

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