Legal question, fine from the DVLA

[Ant1981]

Please tell me again why you believe a Government office cannot impose a fine on you ??

Beacause they're doing so for reasons outside of the previous owners control.

He forfilled his duty by using the method reccomended by the DVLA themselves.

[Deano2711]

Please tell me again why you believe a Government office cannot impose a fine on you ??

Beacause they're doing so for reasons outside of the previous owners control.

He forfilled his duty by using the method reccomended by the DVLA themselves.

But he never received the confirmation letter from them as outlined on the website so therefore HE should have chased it up and no one else is to blame. And it does not matter why they choose to impose the fine....the fact is the Government is the highest ranking office in the country and if they fine you then you are legally obliged to respond with either an appeal or payment. That's the law unfortunately. So by the guidelines set out on the DVLA website Bellend is still liable for the vehicle as he never completed the procedure.

[Ant1981]

Please tell me again why you believe a Government office cannot impose a fine on you ??

Beacause they're doing so for reasons outside of the previous owners control.

He forfilled his duty by using the method reccomended by the DVLA themselves.

But he never received the confirmation letter from them as outlined on the website so therefore HE should have chased it up and no one else is to blame. And it does not matter why they choose to impose the fine....the fact is the Government is the highest ranking office in the country and if they fine you then you are legally obliged to respond with either an appeal or payment. That's the law unfortunately. So by the guidelines set out on the DVLA website Bellend is still liable for the vehicle as he never completed the procedure.

Pipe down boy and leave this to the ones in the know 

[Deano2711]

The ones that know nothing like you then 

[chrisr103]

I got a "Vehicle Tax Reminder" Letter for a Recovery vehicle I sold 2 months previous,

I filled the V5 in when I sold it & posted it 1st class post,

Upon recieving the reminder letter I wrote to DVLE & explained I sold it & had sent the V5 off for change of ownership,In the letter I Gave them the new keepers address & also included a photo copy of the sale recipt that both me & the new keeper had a copy of.

About 2 weeks later I got a letter back from DVLA saying "thank you for letting us know about hte change of keeper & that I was no longer liable for the vehicle"

[Deano2711]

You don't have to contact them if you don't want to. This much is very true.  But then don't cry when they send you a fine as you are still the registered keeper until the confirmation letter arrives as clearly explained on the website. If you choose to not see the procedure through till the end then you run the risk of getting fines/letters about the vehicle.

[Deano2711]

The website clearly says that until the registered keeper details are changed by DVLA you are still liable for the vehicle. Then further down the web page it states that when the details are changed the confirmation letter is automatically sent out.  ChrisR103 explained that he was sent a letter from the DVLA but he had proof of sale which the website advises you to keep until the details have been amended.
Whenever I have sold a vehicle I have posted the logbook off the next day and then await the confirmation letter, so far I have never not received one !!!!!

[AudiA8Quattro]

The question is, what is on the DVLA website, is it enforceable in court?

[Deano2711]

The question is, what is on the DVLA website, is it enforceable in court?

I believe that most of the stuff on the website is for guidelines. But the procedures for registering a vehicle are enforcable and with the DVLA being a Government office then any fines are legal whereas a private company have not got a leg to stand on.

[Livefast123]

What the DVLA say and what they can actually do in LAW are 2 different things.

1. They CANNOT fine you as there is no statute law stating this, however they can issue a demand the same as you, me or Bellend. The fact they are a government quango means nothing.
2. DVLA cannot make you contact them if they mess up and they don't recieve / lose your letter and the system isn't updates.
3. DVLA cannot alter statute law to suit their own interpretations ie Interpretations Act.

The DVLA have no teeth at all when you have followed LAWFUL procedure and not one they have made up. They cannot fine you and the only way they can get money back is due to a court order. They thrive on people getting scared by their long words and monetary demands. If certain people want to run like sheep to a rogering with them then carry on.

As soon as you post that letter, that is all the law requires. Full stop. Court after court keep finding the defendant innocent, what more proof could you want