Race with Ed35 - guess who won?

[RandomJord]

Basically, none of us are driving super cars and the performance differences, minimal bhp an stuff mean not a darn lot on the road. Driver skills the main thing, all comes down to who's got the biggest balls/is the bigger twit surely?

[SilverChariot]

Basically, none of us are driving super cars and the performance differences, minimal bhp an stuff mean not a darn lot on the road. Driver skills the main thing, all comes down to who's got the biggest balls/is the bigger twit surely?

Aye... I got overtaken by a 1.0 Corsa today... driver was right up my arse and needed to prove a point (perhaps to compensate for the size of his manhood). I imagine he's on www.chavvycorsaforum.co.uk bragging about it now!

[JulesS3]

An ed30 has less lag due to lower power. They have the same engine, near enough.

Either way you adapt your driving to the lag, and change when needed.

Ill take top end power over low rpm boost, but can appreciate people not enjoying it.

[Edi35]

An ed30 has less lag due to lower power. They have the same engine, near enough.

Either way you adapt your driving to the lag, and change when needed.

Ill take top end power over low rpm boost, but can appreciate people not enjoying it.

How can the ED30 have less lag due to lower power, thought this was down to size and design of the turbo impeller?

Yes I would rather have high end power and give away some lower end torque

[JulesS3]

Less boost required = lower lag time

[Edi35]

Less boost required = lower lag time

Yes that would appear to be logical, however once the turbo is spining ie the lag has been overcome the turbo will acheive the boost threshold and it will produce the boost it has been designed to produce. The pressure will be controlled by the diverter or blow off valve so I dont see how setting the boost at for example .5 bar or 1 bar will make any difference to the lag. Assuming the turbos in the ED35 and S3 are the same they will acheive the boost threshold at the same time and be producing the same boost at the same rate until the pressure is released depending upon what that is set to. I can see there may be a very small time difference between when the boost pressures might be released ie the lower set pressure valve will open sooner but this wont have anything to do with lag only the final level of boost being produced.

I am no expert so happy to be shot down but I would not expect there to be any difference in 'lag' between ED35, S3 or R. There might be a perceived lack of acceleration as the engine has to overcome the extra weight of the 4WD cars but that's it. Anyone better qualified to answer this, as I said I am no expert? 

[Sean465]

From Whatcar:

"What’s it like to drive? The increase in power and torque figures leads to an inevitable decrease in its 0-62mph time. The 35 does the dash in 6.6 seconds, shaving three tenths off the standard GTI’s time. Top speed has also been increased from 149mph to 154mph.

No surprise, then, that the 35 feels blisteringly quick when you really rev it. It’s a slightly different story when you’re not, though.

You see, the real beauty of the standard GTI’s engine is its effortless flexibility – punch the throttle from just about anywhere on the rev range, and it instantly obeys with strong acceleration. The 35, however, delivers its maximum figures slightly further round the dial, so in actual fact, it feels slightly more reluctant to get going from low revs. Don’t get us wrong, it’s not as if the 35 feels lazy, it just doesn’t quite have the on-demand razzamatazz that the standard car does. You’ll find yourself having to make more downshifts to maximise the car’s potentially brutal performance."

Horses for courses...

[DubaiGTI]

Perfectly explained Sean.

That's exactly why I prefer the GTI over the ED35 and R. Even more so with the stage 1 remap.

[kane1210]

You see, the real beauty of the standard GTI’s engine is its effortless flexibility – punch the throttle from just about anywhere on the rev range, and it instantly obeys with strong acceleration. The 35, however, delivers its maximum figures slightly further round the dial, so in actual fact, it feels slightly more reluctant to get going from low revs. Don’t get us wrong, it’s not as if the 35 feels lazy, it just doesn’t quite have the on-demand razzamatazz that the standard car does.

Exactly , ive got a 35 and i love it .

It is slightly dumpy lower down (like me) but im happy with that cos when i stomp it it takes off and off and offfff.

First time i drove my sisters mk5 gti i was shocked at the immediate response from the pedal and at the time i was driving a 02 s3 (same engine as the 35) and that responded exacty as the ed35 does!

all great cars

peace out!

[carl1]

02 s3 engine is not the same as far as I know