Race with Ed35 - guess who won?

[carl1]

^^^^ turbo lag ??  im not b!tching and i know their is hardly anything in it but i drove my mates 210 ps Scirocco yesterday and it did seem quite breathless above 4500rpm compared to mine and i think thats were the ed35 is a lot better and they are the same below it plus mines only going to get better with only 1100 miles on it, his has 14k.

Turbo lag on the ED35 is a fact, however I'm not saying that the GTI is better, if I were buying now I'd get an ED35 but to deny the Turbo Lag on the ED35 is wrong...


Jim

Have you driven one? if so did you pull off in 3rd or somthing 

Have i driven an edition 35? No.
Have i driven most versions of that engine quite a few time or on a regular basis? Yes.
I have driven a Scirocco R, Leon Cupra, Cupra R, and S3.
I can find the EA888 turbo laggy at times when at real low revs, But by the laws of physics the GTI EA888 will be better than the K04 in the edition35 as the IHI is smaller than even the K03 so spools far quicker than either of those. (Does feel less laggy than the mk5 GTI). Unlike a mate of mine i did not buy an S3 and one of the reasons was the turbo lag i encounted when using his for 2 weeks on my daily commute.
Maybe my GTI;s EA888 is faulty or its map is different as mine only picks up its skirt once past 4K and does not tail off until the red line.
It does not feel fast as its so linear. The TDI i use at the moment feels faster due to turbo lag and power delivery.

Totally agree about S3 being laggy, i nearly swopped my Ed30 for one and that was one of the reasons why i never, yes the Ea88 does pull all the way to the redline far better than the mk5 but it does feel breathless after driving a ed35 above 4500.
Of course the gti's turbo kicks in a bit earlier but to say the ed35 is laggy and even the Ea888 you are in the wrong gear mate or just to used to diesels.

Yes i probably am but thats why i did not buy an edition 30 or Pirelli when they were new, it's also why i did not buy a civic type R. To me a GTI is on song from tickover thats why the mk1 GTI 1.8 and Mk2 GTI 8V were so popular. Im not anti these type of cars there just not for me. If your into modifying there probably ideal. I would have loved to have an unmolested fully loaded edition 35 sitting next to my limited edition earlier GTIs in the garage if it did not have this delivery that i know would niggle and eat away at me on my daily commute, instead i may just go for another EA888 version.
The way you describe the edition 35 sounds like i remember discussions back in 1986. It sounds like the 35 = 16V and the GTI = 8V from back then which is fine, i was always an 8V man and many others were 16V men, each to there own both have there pros and cons.

Thats a fair comparison, id quite happly have a standard gti its just a ed35 came available as i was back in the market for a gti.

[carl1]

Nobody mentioned about you having a race with a R, its moved on from your post to a general disscusion about the slight difference in performance, nobodys willy waving dear.


Edit i thought the above post was all from Gizzywizzy so the Nobodys willy waving is to you both and about you saying about your 265 bhp car couldn't beat a R, i was presumed you ment from you had tried it from a rolling start, my fault  So yes your 265bhp should edge past a R on a rolling start and im plastering while reading typing on this topic

Sure you mean plastering and not plastered  .  No willy waving from me, cos sadly I don't have one to wave   but as someone else has pointed out we ALL love OUR Golfs and enjoy driving them so let's spread the lurve and quit the bickering  

i could do with getting plastered  Yep i like em all R's gti's gtd's r32's etc 

[PenguinGTI]

Nobody mentioned about you having a race with a R, its moved on from your post to a general disscusion about the slight difference in performance, nobodys willy waving dear.


Edit i thought the above post was all from Gizzywizzy so the Nobodys willy waving is to you both and about you saying about your 265 bhp car couldn't beat a R, i was presumed you ment from you had tried it from a rolling start, my fault  So yes your 265bhp should edge past a R on a rolling start and im plastering while reading typing on this topic

Sure you mean plastering and not plastered  .  No willy waving from me, cos sadly I don't have one to wave   but as someone else has pointed out we ALL love OUR Golfs and enjoy driving them so let's spread the lurve and quit the bickering  

i could do with getting plastered  Yep i like em all R's gti's gtd's r32's etc 

Willy waving 

Just like turbo's to be honest.

All well and good saying you have the biggest, but no point if the smaller ones have spooled up and are away before you can get going. 

[jdjd]

what an enjoyable read this thread... Brings back so many memory's from 4 or 5 years ago lol...

Back then the 30 prolly was quicker then an R32, defo with a remap,
 Is the 35 faster then an R? No 

The only thing the r32 has over r20 is an exhaust/engine note!

[kane1210]

What do the ed35's remap to?

[R32UK]

what an enjoyable read this thread... Brings back so many memory's from 4 or 5 years ago lol...

Back then the 30 prolly was quicker then an R32, defo with a remap,
 Is the 35 faster then an R? No 

The only thing the r32 has over r20 is an exhaust/engine note!

  really??? from what I remember my r32 didnt suffer fom turbo lag either

[Jimmymature]

What do the ed35's remap to?

Same as the ED30 approx 280 to 300.

[dubber36]

Jeez, is this still going?

And I thought it was women who never knew when to just leave it. 

[RandomJord]

I had a race once

[mac7]

Some interesting comments regarding turbo lag and performance comparisons. In my experience there isn't much in it between the various Mk5/6 GTI/Ed30/35/R when out on the road - I do seem to get a lot of Mk5 GTI/Ed30's trying it on  . I think I read somewhere that the 4WD cars also have a longer final drive which would blunt initial/mid range acceleration slightly and also accentuate the slight 'lagginess' compared to the GTI. Anyone know for sure?