Race with Ed35 - guess who won?

[R32UK]

A friend of mine borrowed my revod gti and said he was pulling slowly away from a s3 from rollling start. This was repeated a number of times.

[carl1]

^^^^ turbo lag ??  im not b!tching and i know their is hardly anything in it but i drove my mates 210 ps Scirocco yesterday and it did seem quite breathless above 4500rpm compared to mine and i think thats were the ed35 is a lot better and they are the same below it plus mines only going to get better with only 1100 miles on it, his has 14k.

Turbo lag on the ED35 is a fact, however I'm not saying that the GTI is better, if I were buying now I'd get an ED35 but to deny the Turbo Lag on the ED35 is wrong...


Jim

Have you driven one? if so did you pull off in 3rd or somthing 

Have i driven an edition 35? No.
Have i driven most versions of that engine quite a few time or on a regular basis? Yes.
I have driven a Scirocco R, Leon Cupra, Cupra R, and S3.
I can find the EA888 turbo laggy at times when at real low revs, But by the laws of physics the GTI EA888 will be better than the K04 in the edition35 as the IHI is smaller than even the K03 so spools far quicker than either of those. (Does feel less laggy than the mk5 GTI). Unlike a mate of mine i did not buy an S3 and one of the reasons was the turbo lag i encounted when using his for 2 weeks on my daily commute.
Maybe my GTI;s EA888 is faulty or its map is different as mine only picks up its skirt once past 4K and does not tail off until the red line.
It does not feel fast as its so linear. The TDI i use at the moment feels faster due to turbo lag and power delivery.

Totally agree about S3 being laggy, i nearly swopped my Ed30 for one and that was one of the reasons why i never, yes the Ea88 does pull all the way to the redline far better than the mk5 but it does feel breathless after driving a ed35 above 4500.
Of course the gti's turbo kicks in a bit earlier but to say the ed35 is laggy and even the Ea888 you are in the wrong gear mate or just to used to diesels.

[carl1]

^^^ just to add to that my ed30 was obviously a bit more laggy than thte mk5 gti but knowhere near like the S3, so when i test drove the R i expected the same as the S3 and to my surprise it wasn't to bad at all and my ed35 feels hardly any different to my mates scirocco low down, so who knows maybe somthings changed with the mapping.

[Jimmymature]

just because you say they have the same bhp that don't mean they will be exactly the same performance. Did it not occur to you when your 265 bhp gti could not edge past a 267 bhp R what is well over 100kg heavier on a rolling straight that your car might not be 265 bhp lol

It's funny that you think I had a 'race' with an R and lost as I hadn't said anything like that in this post.


This thread makes me laugh on how it's deteriorated from a tongue in cheek post to some ED35 owners telling everyone how much better their car are than anyone else's......

[gizzywizzy]

just because you say they have the same bhp that don't mean they will be exactly the same performance. Did it not occur to you when your 265 bhp gti could not edge past a 267 bhp R what is well over 100kg heavier on a rolling straight that your car might not be 265 bhp lol

It's that you think I had a 'race' with an R and lost as I hadn't said anything like that.


This thread makes me laugh on how it's deteriorated from a tongue in cheek post to some ED35 owners telling everyone how much better their car are than anyone else's......

Quite agree turned into a farcical post of my cars better than yours nahnahnahnahnah.

[carl1]

Nobody mentioned about you having a race with a R, its moved on from your post to a general disscusion about the slight difference in performance, nobodys willy waving dear.


Edit i thought the above post was all from Gizzywizzy so the Nobodys willy waving is to you both and about you saying about your 265 bhp car couldn't beat a R, i was presumed you ment from you had tried it from a rolling start, my fault  So yes your 265bhp should edge past a R on a rolling start and im plastering while reading typing on this topic

[kane1210]

we all love golfs regardless of there form power torque or lag be it tornado red or deep pearl black we all happily drive them and all admire any other gti/r/r32s we see on the road its all love xx lol

[Saint Steve]

what an enjoyable read this thread... Brings back so many memory's from 4 or 5 years ago lol...

[Snoopy]

^^^^ turbo lag ??  im not b!tching and i know their is hardly anything in it but i drove my mates 210 ps Scirocco yesterday and it did seem quite breathless above 4500rpm compared to mine and i think thats were the ed35 is a lot better and they are the same below it plus mines only going to get better with only 1100 miles on it, his has 14k.

Turbo lag on the ED35 is a fact, however I'm not saying that the GTI is better, if I were buying now I'd get an ED35 but to deny the Turbo Lag on the ED35 is wrong...


Jim

Have you driven one? if so did you pull off in 3rd or somthing 

Have i driven an edition 35? No.
Have i driven most versions of that engine quite a few time or on a regular basis? Yes.
I have driven a Scirocco R, Leon Cupra, Cupra R, and S3.
I can find the EA888 turbo laggy at times when at real low revs, But by the laws of physics the GTI EA888 will be better than the K04 in the edition35 as the IHI is smaller than even the K03 so spools far quicker than either of those. (Does feel less laggy than the mk5 GTI). Unlike a mate of mine i did not buy an S3 and one of the reasons was the turbo lag i encounted when using his for 2 weeks on my daily commute.
Maybe my GTI;s EA888 is faulty or its map is different as mine only picks up its skirt once past 4K and does not tail off until the red line.
It does not feel fast as its so linear. The TDI i use at the moment feels faster due to turbo lag and power delivery.

Totally agree about S3 being laggy, i nearly swopped my Ed30 for one and that was one of the reasons why i never, yes the Ea88 does pull all the way to the redline far better than the mk5 but it does feel breathless after driving a ed35 above 4500.
Of course the gti's turbo kicks in a bit earlier but to say the ed35 is laggy and even the Ea888 you are in the wrong gear mate or just to used to diesels.

Yes i probably am but thats why i did not buy an edition 30 or Pirelli when they were new, it's also why i did not buy a civic type R. To me a GTI is on song from tickover thats why the mk1 GTI 1.8 and Mk2 GTI 8V were so popular. Im not anti these type of cars there just not for me. If your into modifying there probably ideal. I would have loved to have an unmolested fully loaded edition 35 sitting next to my limited edition earlier GTIs in the garage if it did not have this delivery that i know would niggle and eat away at me on my daily commute, instead i may just go for another EA888 version.
The way you describe the edition 35 sounds like i remember discussions back in 1986. It sounds like the 35 = 16V and the GTI = 8V from back then which is fine, i was always an 8V man and many others were 16V men, each to there own both have there pros and cons.

[gizzywizzy]

Nobody mentioned about you having a race with a R, its moved on from your post to a general disscusion about the slight difference in performance, nobodys willy waving dear.


Edit i thought the above post was all from Gizzywizzy so the Nobodys willy waving is to you both and about you saying about your 265 bhp car couldn't beat a R, i was presumed you ment from you had tried it from a rolling start, my fault  So yes your 265bhp should edge past a R on a rolling start and im plastering while reading typing on this topic

Sure you mean plastering and not plastered  .  No willy waving from me, cos sadly I don't have one to wave   but as someone else has pointed out we ALL love OUR Golfs and enjoy driving them so let's spread the lurve and quit the bickering