Race with Ed35 - guess who won?

[carl1]

^^^^ turbo lag ??  im not b!tching and i know their is hardly anything in it but i drove my mates 210 ps Scirocco yesterday and it did seem quite breathless above 4500rpm compared to mine and i think thats were the ed35 is a lot better and they are the same below it plus mines only going to get better with only 1100 miles on it, his has 14k.

Turbo lag on the ED35 is a fact, however I'm not saying that the GTI is better, if I were buying now I'd get an ED35 but to deny the Turbo Lag on the ED35 is wrong...


Jim

Have you driven one? if so did you pull off in 3rd or somthing 

[jdjd]

I think the real difference is on a rolling start say from 30mph- 100 mph, the ed35 is right up their with R on a rolling start staight and thats were the Gti would be left in the shade, you could say how often would you do that but how often do you do 0-60 and so on.

I think you pulled that out of nowhere, I couldn't catch an R side by side with a remap'd gti, no idea how how a standard ed30 would be close,

[carl1]

Don't be so surprised, R has extra weight and the haldex, there was nothing in it between my Ed30 and a S3, both standard.

Just to add i know i said that fastest laps site should be used as a guide and not gospel check the 0-200kph R 22.7  ed35 23.1 and thats with 4wd advantage pull off. Gti is 26.4. but like i said a rough guide.

[Jimmymature]

Don't be so surprised, R has extra weight and the haldex, there was nothing in it between my Ed30 and a S3, both standard.

Just to add i know i said that fastest laps site should be used as a guide and not gospel check the 0-200kph R 22.7  ed35 23.1 and thats with 4wd advantage pull off. Gti is 26.4. but like i said a rough guide.

LOL, you saying that 20BHP makes the the ED35 as fast as the R?

In that case my 265 mapped GTI is as faster than an R and then some*

*Which it ain't...



Jim

[carl1]

^^^ I would say its tight on a rolling start going off my ed30 v S3 experence and i would sugest your gti wasn't 265 if it wasn't a bit quicker on a rolling start straight.

[Jimmymature]

^^^ I would say its tight on a rolling start going off my ed30 v S3 experence and i would sugest your gti wasn't 265 if it wasn't a bit quicker on a rolling start straight.

My car was on the rollers at 235BHP on a previous map and I could hardly tell the difference to the standard GTI so how you think the ED35 is as quick as an R is completely beyond me....


Jim

[Edi35]

Don't be so surprised, R has extra weight and the haldex, there was nothing in it between my Ed30 and a S3, both standard.

Just to add i know i said that fastest laps site should be used as a guide and not gospel check the 0-200kph R 22.7  ed35 23.1 and thats with 4wd advantage pull off. Gti is 26.4. but like i said a rough guide.

LOL, you saying that 20BHP makes the the ED35 as fast as the R?

In that case my 265 mapped GTI is as faster than an R and then some*

*Which it ain't...



Jim

Carl1 is right my experience of my ED30 and S3 (both std) is the same as I have posted before in this thread. From 40 mph upwards on a dual carriage way there was no difference between the two. Plus my own experience of the R (manual) only puts this 2-3 mph up on my regular drives compared to the ED30 (DSG). I am not trying to say the ED30/35 is as good as an S3 or R these are only a little bit faster and is also backed up by the figures above only 0.4 secs difference to 200KPH.

[carl1]

just because you say they have the same bhp that don't mean they will be exactly the same performance. Did it not occur to you when your 265 bhp gti could not edge past a 267 bhp R what is well over 100kg heavier on a rolling straight that your car might not be 265 bhp lol

[carl1]

Yes Edi35 totally agree im just trying to point out where the ed35 performance advantage is greater than the Gti and could surprise a R not beat it.

[Snoopy]

^^^^ turbo lag ??  im not b!tching and i know their is hardly anything in it but i drove my mates 210 ps Scirocco yesterday and it did seem quite breathless above 4500rpm compared to mine and i think thats were the ed35 is a lot better and they are the same below it plus mines only going to get better with only 1100 miles on it, his has 14k.

Turbo lag on the ED35 is a fact, however I'm not saying that the GTI is better, if I were buying now I'd get an ED35 but to deny the Turbo Lag on the ED35 is wrong...


Jim

Have you driven one? if so did you pull off in 3rd or somthing 

Have i driven an edition 35? No.
Have i driven most versions of that engine quite a few time or on a regular basis? Yes.
I have driven a Scirocco R, Leon Cupra, Cupra R, and S3.
I can find the EA888 turbo laggy at times when at real low revs, But by the laws of physics the GTI EA888 will be better than the K04 in the edition35 as the IHI is smaller than even the K03 so spools far quicker than either of those. (Does feel less laggy than the mk5 GTI). Unlike a mate of mine i did not buy an S3 and one of the reasons was the turbo lag i encounted when using his for 2 weeks on my daily commute.
Maybe my GTI;s EA888 is faulty or its map is different as mine only picks up its skirt once past 4K and does not tail off until the red line.
It does not feel fast as its so linear. The TDI i use at the moment feels faster due to turbo lag and power delivery.