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Re: Remapped 150PD overboosting
« Reply #10 on: 13 February 2012, 21:01 »
You will need a 30psi boost gauge... :wink:


You will sh@t a brick when you see it pin 30psi for a second or 2..lol 

We can tweak you up a bit more when the soot blower is in a better shape.. :grin:   

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Re: Remapped 150PD overboosting
« Reply #11 on: 18 February 2012, 17:34 »
Group B:

TIME
STAMP
0
0.8
1.58
2.38
3.2
3.98
4.8
5.58
6.4
7.23
8.04
8.86
9.66
10.46
11.26
12.06
12.86
13.66
14.46
15.26
16.06
16.88
17.67
18.46
19.26
20.07
20.87
21.67
'008
Engine speed
2850-3150
 /min
1428
1575
1869
2289
2646
3045
3339
3591
3822
4032
4221
4389
4536
4662
4788
4893
4977
4389
2394
2352
2310
2268
2226
2184
2142
2079
2037
1995
IQ driver's req
65-70
 mg/R
17.6
52.4
62.6
67
70
70
70
70
70
70
70
70
70
70
70
70
70
0
2.7
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
IQ via rpm(Torq)
52-54
 mg/R
50.5
55.7
63.4
63.1
62
62.3
62.6
62.9
62.9
62.9
58.7
55.2
51.9
48
43.9
36.8
26.4
54.4
62.6
62.9
62.9
63.1
63.1
63.1
63.4
63.4
63.7
64
IQ via MAF
52-60
 mg/R
27.2
46.1
58.2
58.7
57.1
56.3
52.7
50.8
48.6
45.8
42.8
40.9
38.7
36.5
34.6
33.2
31.3
30.2
23.1
22.2
22.2
22.2
22.2
22.2
22.2
22.2
22.5
22.5
Group C:

TIME
STAMP
0.4
1.2
1.98
2.78
3.58
4.38
5.2
6.01
6.81
7.63
8.44
9.26
10.06
10.86
11.66
12.46
13.26
14.08
14.86
15.66
16.46
17.28
18.07
18.86
19.66
20.46
21.27
22.08
'011
Engine speed
2850-3150
 /min
1470
1701
2037
2436
2856
3192
3486
3717
3927
4137
4305
4473
4599
4725
4851
4935
4956
3150
2373
2331
2289
2247
2205
2163
2121
2058
2016
1974
Spec. intake press.
2300-2600
 mbar
1744.2
2244
2601
2601
2601
2601
2601
2601
2601
2601
2529.6
2437.8
2366.4
2284.8
2244
2244
1142.4
1336.2
1009.8
1009.8
1009.8
1009.8
999.6
999.6
999.6
999.6
999.6
999.6
Actual intake press.
2200-2800

1345.5
1989
2889.9
2983.5
2878.2
2644.2
2515.5
2480.4
2445.3
2410.2
2375.1
2340
2316.6
2304.9
2281.5
2269.8
2187.9
1872
1427.4
1263.6
1240.2
1228.5
1216.8
1205.1
1205.1
1193.4
1193.4
1181.7
D.cycle MAP
35-80%
 %
23.9
41
66.1
74.5
76.9
75.3
73.3
73.3
72.1
69.7
70.9
70.5
70.5
70.5
71.3
69.7
50.2
48.2
40.6
40.2
39.8
39.4
39
38.6
38.3
37.9
37.1
36.7

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Re: Remapped 150PD overboosting
« Reply #12 on: 18 February 2012, 17:43 »
After plumbing back in the vacuum reservoir, to help cure the over boost. I have only plumbed back in the reservoir to see if this will cure it, as judging from the set up I don't see how the other valves will help as they literally do nothing now the EGR valve has gone.



 Just done logs on blocks 008 & 011 as suggested and have gotten the reading above, can some one please decipher them as I don't have a clue  :sad:

I can put them into graphs, but which values should I put into the graphs :smiley: Thanks guysss

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Re: Remapped 150PD overboosting *with new logging figures*
« Reply #13 on: 23 February 2012, 20:15 »


This is the graph of block 011...Anyone shed anylight on it? I peeking then dying off...How would I keep it hold the boost?

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Re: Remapped 150PD overboosting *with new logging figures*
« Reply #14 on: 24 February 2012, 08:00 »
i have a problem with boost spikes on mine came make it do it if i throttle hard approx 2200 revs.

some days ok some not. Doing my head in.

At minute mine is very dosile until 2300 revs then torque comes in really sharp
which is ok when just pootling about but when pushed it really does overboost quite easily

I need to get torque smoothed out and to come in earlier. I'm not fussed about big numbers

No good having a car that spins it's wheels everywhere and eats tyres.

Our family wagon (Volvo V50 D5) is lovely and smooth but bags of grunt. Would like it to be more like that
rather than like an unpreictable teenager on redbull and blue smarties
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Re: Remapped 150PD overboosting *with new logging figures*
« Reply #15 on: 04 March 2012, 19:26 »
i have a problem with boost spikes on mine came make it do it if i throttle hard approx 2200 revs.

some days ok some not. Doing my head in.

At minute mine is very dosile until 2300 revs then torque comes in really sharp
which is ok when just pootling about but when pushed it really does overboost quite easily

I need to get torque smoothed out and to come in earlier. I'm not fussed about big numbers

No good having a car that spins it's wheels everywhere and eats tyres.

Our family wagon (Volvo V50 D5) is lovely and smooth but bags of grunt. Would like it to be more like that
rather than like an unpreictable teenager on redbull and blue smarties

Excuse me for being ignorant, but if say I did a data logging session where by I applied power gradually until the redline then may I not get the overboost and awful spike? I thought with the data logging you were meant to do with the throttle wide open from as low down as possible until the redline?

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Re: Remapped 150PD overboosting *with new logging figures*
« Reply #16 on: 06 March 2012, 20:26 »
i have a problem with boost spikes on mine came make it do it if i throttle hard approx 2200 revs.

some days ok some not. Doing my head in.

At minute mine is very dosile until 2300 revs then torque comes in really sharp
which is ok when just pootling about but when pushed it really does overboost quite easily

I need to get torque smoothed out and to come in earlier. I'm not fussed about big numbers

No good having a car that spins it's wheels everywhere and eats tyres.

Our family wagon (Volvo V50 D5) is lovely and smooth but bags of grunt. Would like it to be more like that
rather than like an unpreictable teenager on redbull and blue smarties

Excuse me for being ignorant, but if say I did a data logging session where by I applied power gradually until the redline then may I not get the overboost and awful spike? I thought with the data logging you were meant to do with the throttle wide open from as low down as possible until the redline?

You can data log under all conditions, part throttle, WOT light load full load, you can replicate all conditions and read the info off.  Most people log via a WOT sweep test so then can build up graphs.

In your case with your issues your best way to gain data is under extream conditioins, 4th gear WOT from 1600rpm to around 3200rpm to capture the data where the overboost happens.


As for pipes, I have only seen issues with the valves removed and only log and test with them in place as they should be, so I can only advise to replace all the vac pipes and valves back in line and just plug the anti shudder and egr line.    The VNT vac control is very sensitive.  You need to fix the hardware so the actual boost matchs or gets close to what the map is asking for.  I may take a little time to sort, but will be well worth it in the end.

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Re: Remapped 150PD overboosting *with new logging figures*
« Reply #17 on: 06 March 2012, 21:09 »
Ok, brill, thanks. I will do some logs soon, report back and see if it has helped!