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Offline Diamond Hell

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Re: 12 years SORN
« Reply #20 on: 08 February 2012, 21:56 »
Engine flush is not a good idea for older engines.  The carbon deposits and crud it removes could foul up the oilways etc..

More than that it'll clean all the shyte off the seals which is what's stopped them leaking.

Great way of causing oil leaks.

If it's got oil, if it hasn't been rebuilt, then it should be primed and there's no reason to turn it over by hand.

With the plugs out there won't be the pressure on the bearings, either - another reason to spin it over with no plugs until it's up to pressure.

Roverdose has outlined what would probably happen in a lot of situations - see if the sucker'll start, then get into fluid changes.
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Re: 12 years SORN
« Reply #21 on: 09 February 2012, 09:46 »
thanks for the quick replies and advice guys, much appreciated.
some points I picked up on from your advice...............................................

the original battery packed in a good few years ago ( lack of use )  and I'll need to buy a new one now anyway.

the handbrake has been left off, but I think the calipers, especially the rear may need some attention due to the time being unused ?

changing the fluids is a good idea, do you think I should change the oil before trying to start it ?  bearing in mind the oil is over 12 years old ?

what about the petrol in the tank ? will it still be ok ?  should I drain it first and refill with new ?

to be honest I get annoyed with myself for not running her for so long, but I've been otherwise occupied to cut a long story short !!

again your advice and comments very much appreciated

Iain




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Re: 12 years SORN
« Reply #22 on: 09 February 2012, 11:38 »

some points I picked up on from your advice...............................................

the original battery packed in a good few years ago ( lack of use )  and I'll need to buy a new one now anyway. Get a Good Bosch Silver Line One!!

the handbrake has been left off, but I think the calipers, especially the rear may need some attention due to the time being unused ? They Will & I would guess The HB Cable will need replacing... 

changing the fluids is a good idea, do you think I should change the oil before trying to start it ?  bearing in mind the oil is over 12 years old ? Check the dip stick 1st and see what it looks like...If its still black and runny should be ok if the level is low top up with fresh stuff

what about the petrol in the tank ? will it still be ok ?  should I drain it first and refill with new ? I would stick 5 Ltr of new Super Unleaded in her to freshen it up as it can go off...

to be honest I get annoyed with myself for not running her for so long, but I've been otherwise occupied to cut a long story short !! Know the feeling - at least you have kept her!!

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Re: 12 years SORN
« Reply #23 on: 09 February 2012, 12:02 »
Its worth changing the fuel filter as you can potentially clog up fuel lines with sedament from the fuel filter!

Plus I would defo new ionised water and anti freeze just to help the water pump!

Every belt as they would have dried up by now aswell in the mix!

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Re: 12 years SORN
« Reply #24 on: 09 February 2012, 20:13 »
Drain the fuel tank, replace the filter then put some fresh fuel in it.

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Re: 12 years SORN
« Reply #25 on: 10 February 2012, 11:03 »
thanks guys,  quite a wee bit to do before firing her up ??

Iain


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Re: 12 years SORN
« Reply #26 on: 10 February 2012, 11:49 »
It all depends how much care/time/money you want to invest.

You could be brutal and strap on a fresh battery and start churning the engine to see if it starts...  :evil:

or Do some or all of the above mentioned to give it a better chance.

If it were me i might do the following in preperation for a first start, before then changing all fluids etc:

I like the idea of rocking the car back and forth in gear to ensure nothing is seized (in 5th gear).

Then Remove the top part of the cam belt cover that is clipped in place and check the condition of the cam belt, get hold of it and give it a wee tug to see that its not totally wasted. i.e. looking cracked and ready to break

Changeing the fuel filter isnt too diffucult- you'll need new hose clips and a filter. This would be a good idea coupled with draining/siphoning off as much of the old fuel as possible and adding a couple of fresh gallons of super unleaded. Then turn the ignition on and off a few times to run the fuel pump to get fuel into the system (without turning the starter). 12yr old fuel wont be the best for a first attempt at starting.

check the oil level, top up to the max if its below- but regardless, add a bit of oil into the filler cap just so that there is some oil at the top of the engine prior to starting to turn it.

then remove all the spark plugs and crank the engine a bit before trying it with the plugs in. new plugs should be on your shopping list, and would help the first start.

Then start cranking in say five second bursts, with a break in between of 10-20sec's so as not to overheat the starter motor. it may take a bit of this to get fuel worked through.

If it does not fire at all in a few minutes, its trouble shooting time.

Good luck. When are you planning to try it?

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Re: 12 years SORN
« Reply #27 on: 12 February 2012, 10:41 »
thanks Rob, I'll probably leave it to the better weather so that I can bring her out of the garage and have more room to work on her.

Iain

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Re: 12 years SORN
« Reply #28 on: 12 February 2012, 19:17 »
Good stuff, warmer weather will help presuade it. do let us know how you get on- pics are always good/appreciated!

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Re: 12 years SORN
« Reply #29 on: 12 February 2012, 21:27 »
thanks for the quick replies and advice guys, much appreciated.
some points I picked up on from your advice...............................................

the original battery packed in a good few years ago ( lack of use )  and I'll need to buy a new one now anyway.

the handbrake has been left off, but I think the calipers, especially the rear may need some attention due to the time being unused ?

changing the fluids is a good idea, do you think I should change the oil before trying to start it ?  bearing in mind the oil is over 12 years old ?

what about the petrol in the tank ? will it still be ok ?  should I drain it first and refill with new ?

to be honest I get annoyed with myself for not running her for so long, but I've been otherwise occupied to cut a long story short !!

again your advice and comments very much appreciated

Iain


I would change the timming belt m8 as it has been in the same position for all they years plus rubber perishes over time you dont want it snaping and bending valves