Author Topic: 1.6-2.0 8v conversion  (Read 2560 times)

Offline dubpirate

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1.6-2.0 8v conversion
« on: 04 February 2012, 17:07 »
what do i need to do this conversion

list of parts please


Offline danmusic24

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Re: 1.6-2.0 8v conversion
« Reply #1 on: 04 February 2012, 18:00 »
Part 1.   Don't bother

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Re: 1.6-2.0 8v conversion
« Reply #2 on: 04 February 2012, 18:40 »
what so there is a post o0n about making a 1.6 quicker everyone says dont bother swap it for a 2.0l 8v its cheaper with better results and now ppl are saying dont bother

what u want me to do buy a vr6

well i cant afford the running costs or insurance

its actually for a friend who wants abit more poke he wont change car

Offline murraymint

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Re: 1.6-2.0 8v conversion
« Reply #3 on: 04 February 2012, 18:46 »
wel bcoz you can pic up a 8v gti so cheap its not worth the effort wen you can just buy a gti
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Re: 1.6-2.0 8v conversion
« Reply #4 on: 04 February 2012, 19:25 »
I said people sell and buy a gti.
If you do a engine swap get a 1.8 20v turbo.

But if your car is solid and rust free buy a donor car.

Because yours is a 1.6 you will need a lot of parts. So buy a rust bucket gti for £200 and swap everything over.

Do a search on engine conversions mate

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Re: 1.6-2.0 8v conversion
« Reply #5 on: 04 February 2012, 21:02 »
For the gains it is not worth the work, building what you can buy never makes sense.

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Re: 1.6-2.0 8v conversion
« Reply #6 on: 05 February 2012, 19:44 »
For the gains it is not worth the work, building what you can buy never makes sense.
Not strictly true. If you have a shell that has had work done to it and you know the condition of it inside and out then it's worth doing an engine conversion rather than buying a car with that same engine but having to re-do every modification on the chassis side of things.

But unless the shell has had major performance upgrades done to it, or unless the shell is *literally* rustproof then it's not worth, as converting a non GTI model to GTI spec is a lot more effort than converting say an 8v gti to 16v or VR6. You'd need engine, pedal box, gearbox, shift mechanism, probably fuel pump (not sure if GTI and non GTI is different, but I presume it is, unless you non GTI has MPI). That's just engine side, you'd need to upgrade brakes and suspension to cope with the weight gain.

As I said, unless your shell is literally rust proof or it has had a lot of work done to it, then it's not worth it.

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Re: 1.6-2.0 8v conversion
« Reply #7 on: 05 February 2012, 21:26 »
For the gains it is not worth the work, building what you can buy never makes sense.
Not strictly true. If you have a shell that has had work done to it and you know the condition of it inside and out then it's worth doing an engine conversion rather than buying a car with that same engine but having to re-do every modification on the chassis side of things.

But unless the shell has had major performance upgrades done to it, or unless the shell is *literally* rustproof then it's not worth, as converting a non GTI model to GTI spec is a lot more effort than converting say an 8v gti to 16v or VR6. You'd need engine, pedal box, gearbox, shift mechanism, probably fuel pump (not sure if GTI and non GTI is different, but I presume it is, unless you non GTI has MPI). That's just engine side, you'd need to upgrade brakes and suspension to cope with the weight gain.

As I said, unless your shell is literally rust proof or it has had a lot of work done to it, then it's not worth it.

Valid point but unless your fitting a 1.8t it is never worth the work even more so with the value of mk3 these days.
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Re: 1.6-2.0 8v conversion
« Reply #8 on: 05 February 2012, 21:29 »
The extra money it will cost on the conversion rather than buying a gti could and would imo be better spent instead on repairing and/or strengthening a gti shell with the right engine already in it

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Re: 1.6-2.0 8v conversion
« Reply #9 on: 06 February 2012, 12:14 »
what so there is a post o0n about making a 1.6 quicker everyone says dont bother swap it for a 2.0l 8v its cheaper with better results and now ppl are saying dont bother

what u want me to do buy a vr6

well i cant afford the running costs or insurance

its actually for a friend who wants abit more poke he wont change car
if you can't afford running costs, don't put a 2.0 in it, plus check insurance (if you intend on insuring it  :rolleyes:)
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