Benefits. for or against a cap?

[T_J_G]

Completely agree with the above, cap it to £1..

Fixed for you.

[CJA321]

Cap it... so many scrotebags and wasters in this country..

Watched that program lastnight on the families with like 15kids. 2 of the fams had jobs and managed fine. but one woman was claiming for 15 children, her husband had comited benifit fraud had a huge council house and car and her 16year old daughter was just giving bitrth also!!!!

At my age, (just turning 20) it would be honestly easier for me to get my girlfriend pregnant. become homeless and quit my apprenticeship... id have alot more time and money...

This countrys a joke.

[AudiA8Quattro]

Also the problem of unemployment won't go away. We are going to see unemployment continuing to rise.
There isn't enough jobs for everyone, so what do we do?

The trouble is, there ARE plenty of jobs, but they tend to be lower paid and carried out by non-UK nationals who are prepared to work where bone idle Brits think menial/low paid work is below them...so they'd rather sit at home and expect the taxpayer to pay for their rent/beer/fags/plasma TV and Sky.

If it were up to me, if you don't work, and haven't paid into the system (to make sure the honest get a help out if thet genuinely need it) then you'd get a sh!t house in a sh!t area and basic food vouchers.
A new car, foreign holidays, Sky TV, iPhone etc should not be attainable by the bone idle, lazy, theiving toe-rags who think the State should owe them a good income.

The minimum wage should be increased to make sure people can actuallt live on it...and Taxpayers handouts all but stopped, so this insane situation where you 'get more staying at home then you do working' doesn't happen.

And if you can't afford kids...don't breed.

Simples.

I hear what you're saying Glen.
But there are nearly 3 million unemployed(official figures), unofficial figures will be much higher.
There AREN'T enough jobs, that is a fact unfortunately. Like everyone else, i hate scroungers, but i think it is wrong to demonise the unemployed.
I do hope none of you end up losing your jobs 

[Roverdose]

sick of hearing people moaning about the cap, Only £500 a week? my heart bleeds! Go Dave!!!

[Ess_Three]

I hear what you're saying Glen.
But there are nearly 3 million unemployed(official figures), unofficial figures will be much higher.
There AREN'T enough jobs, that is a fact unfortunately. Like everyone else, i hate scroungers, but i think it is wrong to demonise the unemployed.

If you look at non-UK Nationals who work in fish processing plants, factories, hotels, take aways etc...you are rapidly heading up there in numbers.
The people do those jobs because they have a work ethic.
Your average lazy unemployed Brit sees such jobs as below them...and won't do them.

If they did, we would have less illegal workers in the UK...as well as less unemployment.

I do hope none of you end up losing your jobs 

I've lost mine...twice...so know the feeling.

However, if someone has paid into the system, then the system should help them out. If the system - or taxpayer - was not having to provide handouts for the bone idle, there would be more available for the genuine people of the country.

[Steve_PD]

Also the problem of unemployment won't go away. We are going to see unemployment continuing to rise.
There isn't enough jobs for everyone, so what do we do?

The trouble is, there ARE plenty of jobs, but they tend to be lower paid and carried out by non-UK nationals who are prepared to work where bone idle Brits think menial/low paid work is below them...so they'd rather sit at home and expect the taxpayer to pay for their rent/beer/fags/plasma TV and Sky.

If it were up to me, if you don't work, and haven't paid into the system (to make sure the honest get a help out if thet genuinely need it) then you'd get a sh!t house in a sh!t area and basic food vouchers.
A new car, foreign holidays, Sky TV, iPhone etc should not be attainable by the bone idle, lazy, theiving toe-rags who think the State should owe them a good income.

The minimum wage should be increased to make sure people can actuallt live on it...and Taxpayers handouts all but stopped, so this insane situation where you 'get more staying at home then you do working' doesn't happen.

And if you can't afford kids...don't breed.

Simples.

I hear what you're saying Glen.
But there are nearly 3 million unemployed(official figures), unofficial figures will be much higher.
There AREN'T enough jobs, that is a fact unfortunately. Like everyone else, i hate scroungers, but i think it is wrong to demonise the unemployed.
I do hope none of you end up losing your jobs 

Needs to be a complete re-write of the system. If you work hard for years and pay taxes then hard times hit and you loose your job you should be entitled to benefits etc. for a set amount of time e.g. 6 months to a year. after that you should get f**k all.
Benefits should be you just scrap by. Not a ps3 in every room with 42" plasmas, 2 holidays a year and a nice car.
If you have 8 kids should you have a 9 bed house paid for? If I had 8 kids would the government extend my house to accommodate them.

The whole system is f**ked. It penalises people who work and rewards people who never have and pops out kids for fun

[Ess_Three]

Needs to be a complete re-write of the system. If you work hard for years and pay taxes then hard times hit and you loose your job you should be entitled to benefits etc. for a set amount of time e.g. 6 months to a year. after that you should get f**k all.
Benefits should be you just scrap by. Not a ps3 in every room with 42" plasmas, 2 holidays a year and a nice car.
If you have 8 kids should you have a 9 bed house paid for? If I had 8 kids would the government extend my house to accommodate them.

Amen to that. 

The whole system is f**ked. It penalises people who work and rewards people who never have and pops out kids for fun

But it's just so easy to tax those who have too much self respect to be a sponging, layabout, bone idle waste of space and who bother going to work in order to have a nice life.
It's just too easy to add a few % on the VAT or a Penny in the Pound on Income Tax.

[VW BUSH]

Also the problem of unemployment won't go away. We are going to see unemployment continuing to rise.
There isn't enough jobs for everyone, so what do we do?

The trouble is, there ARE plenty of jobs, but they tend to be lower paid and carried out by non-UK nationals who are prepared to work where bone idle Brits think menial/low paid work is below them...so they'd rather sit at home and expect the taxpayer to pay for their rent/beer/fags/plasma TV and Sky.

If it were up to me, if you don't work, and haven't paid into the system (to make sure the honest get a help out if thet genuinely need it) then you'd get a sh!t house in a sh!t area and basic food vouchers.
A new car, foreign holidays, Sky TV, iPhone etc should not be attainable by the bone idle, lazy, theiving toe-rags who think the State should owe them a good income.

The minimum wage should be increased to make sure people can actuallt live on it...and Taxpayers handouts all but stopped, so this insane situation where you 'get more staying at home then you do working' doesn't happen.

And if you can't afford kids...don't breed.

Simples.

100% agree.

[AudiA8Quattro]

There is always going to be unemployed, unless we have another world war.
Take away all the migrant workers, and will still be huge, and it's getting bigger.
So the question still is, what do we do as a society?

[JC]

saw the rhread title and thought we had all gone femine all of a sudden  

wrong kinda cap