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Offline carl1

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Re: used gti value's
« Reply #20 on: 20 January 2012, 14:30 »
^^^^ its catch 22 i couldn't stomach making payments that were more than my mortgage.
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« Reply #21 on: 20 January 2012, 15:00 »
Leasing, Finance or PCP whatever they are called are not cheaper than buying with cash for a private buyer.

thats not always true. In most cases I could put 25k to enough use to see a much better return than you would expect to pay on most finance deals.

... but again down to preference and circumstance. there is no set way. :nerd:

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Re: used gti value's
« Reply #22 on: 20 January 2012, 15:18 »
^^^^ we have been through this before :smiley: i make money with other money which enables me to buy myself a treat now and again. You lose money on most things in life,  we are not here that long even if you live till you are 90  :smiley:
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Re: used gti value's
« Reply #23 on: 20 January 2012, 15:20 »
Mine is 100% mine.  :smiley:

+1, it's the only thing I've ever really owned outright, and because of that I love it even more.
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Re: used gti value's
« Reply #24 on: 20 January 2012, 15:39 »
I dont think anyone on here needs educating on how they should fund or buy a car, you all have lots of experience probably. I know having sold these things that if I wanted to change the car every 3 years then in terms of monthly out goings vs depreciation, contract hire is the cheapest. If I knew I was going to keep it for alot longer than that then I would buy it on PCP for the safety of it vs HP.

To some it up they are sickeningly expensive things to own ; ) but we love them.
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Re: used gti value's
« Reply #25 on: 20 January 2012, 16:11 »
I know having sold these things that if I wanted to change the car every 3 years then in terms of monthly out goings vs depreciation, contract hire is the cheapest. 

That's all well and good Lee, but there are some of us that just don't want the tie of monthly payments for anymore things than those that are absolutely necessary, like utilities and mortgage for those that still have one.

Being self-employed with an irregular income, means I can't always support regular out goings. But that's just me.
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Re: used gti value's
« Reply #26 on: 20 January 2012, 16:20 »
He's a salesman he's bound to say that  :smiley:, unless now Vw or whoever borrow you 20k and say you only give us back 20k over 3 years.
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Re: used gti value's
« Reply #27 on: 20 January 2012, 16:21 »
I'd have to agree with the sentiments that there is no ideal way to purchase a car. It all depends on personal circumstances. Golfs do tend to be bought by people with their own money more than other similar cars and VW are always careful to keep it that way, so there will be a good mix of owners on these boards.
I'm another that owns the car 100%, privately financed and no company car allowance or other aids. Just sheer hard saving and careful negotiating over many years to build up to where I am. If I didn't have the money to buy a nearly new car I doubt I'd PCP or whatever, I'd just buy an older VAG car and be content with that.
Different generations and financial circumstances (and spending habits) suit different people and we're 'lucky' that there are many more options of owning new or newish cars now than a few years ago. Let's just say it's much easier to 'own' a new car nowadays.

Back on topic: As to value, constant rumours of the next generation Golf will always affect depreciation, and I think as mk6 owners we all knew this would be the case in buying a facelifted mk5. I think the mk6 is good enough not to be disgraced alongside the next generation car so we don't have too much to worry about if we decide we can't afford or don't want to afford the next generation car. Personally I've now got the spec I'm happy with so if I have to keep the car 20 years so be it, I'm not going to play silly buggers with the market any more!! These things are just getting far too expensive for average private buyers when new.
Having said that, part of the fun of ownership of my cars has been the chasing deals when changing car and buying and selling the modifications I've bolted on it (I've only ever modified my cars enough to be able to unbolt stuff quickly in the event of a sale). My GTIs (and Cupras and TDIs) over the years have been my hobby as well as my transport so I guess it makes more sense for me to buy outright (if and when I can afford to) so I don't upset lease or financiers by changing the spec from factory standard.

I bought my first mk6 around Sept 09 after many months of getting my finances in shape and phoning around for deals. After around 12 months I started getting a price for it as there were rumours of a company car scheme at work, it had dropped only about £1800 at book value from what I paid at that point. Though dealers were very reluctant to pay book.
A year later when I had decided I wanted a car with significantly better spec the book price had dropped away a lot, lot more. With a lot of persistance I got a good price for it but I know fully well the car I bought, having much higher spec, will drop like a stone in value. Que sera.
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Re: used gti value's
« Reply #28 on: 20 January 2012, 16:55 »
He's a salesman he's bound to say that  :smiley:, unless now Vw or whoever lend you 20k and say you only give us back 20k over 3 years.

I dare say you could negotiate a 0% finance deal with a VW dealer, but you won't get as good a discount. You can't have it both ways. Someone, somewhere has to pay the interest on any finance deal.
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Re: used gti value's
« Reply #29 on: 20 January 2012, 18:57 »
He's a salesman he's bound to say that  :smiley:, unless now Vw or whoever lend you 20k and say you only give us back 20k over 3 years.

I dare say you could negotiate a 0% finance deal with a VW dealer, but you won't get as good a discount. You can't have it both ways. Someone, somewhere has to pay the interest on any finance deal.

If we did a interest free offer on £20,000 over 3 years it would cost us £1942 to do it..............so not going to much room at all for discount.

Yes I am a salesman but not saying what I have for the sake of it I am just stating facts.

Its a case of people are very proud and everyone wants to say I paid cash for it or I am paying cash where in reality its funded in some method. I still cant get my head round people thinking cash gets them a better deal. I guess it was a thing of the past before I was born : )
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