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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #40 on: 17 January 2012, 19:04 »
The current system of economics and politics are failing. Cost of living constantly on the rise!! Its a bleak future for all of us and  I dread to think what our future generations will have to deal with. Scottish independance won't change anything for the better in regards to these. We will still be under EU control and we will still be under an economy created out of debt, wether it be the pound or the euro its still fiat currency. People blame 'dole merchants' as a bad mark on society but they don't relise that these are inherent parts of society, like bankruptsy is an inherent part of economics. One mans triumph is anothers failure, that is the letter of tha law. There is never enough money or jobs to give everyone a secure way of life, and there never will be. Ever!! There is problems in Scotland the same as any other country but by becoming independant from the UK won't change a thing and do more damage than good. Like said before, economics and politics and the way they come together is the fundamantal problem with every other issue in modern society. Basically because both have run their course and have not moved forward and have no plans in doing so.


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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #41 on: 18 January 2012, 21:23 »
Where does the royal family stand on this? Is there not close ties blood aswell with scots and brits?

The royal family are greek & german  :grin:

Very German yes but the Greek bit is a bit of banter really

Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth and Baron Greenwich, was born Prince of Greece and Denmark in Corfu on 10 June 1921.

He was born the only son of Prince Andrew of Greece. His paternal family is of Danish descent - Prince Andrew was the grandson of King Christian IX of Denmark.

His mother was Princess Alice of Battenberg, the eldest child of Prince Louis of Battenberg and sister of Earl Mountbatten of Burma. Prince Louis became a naturalised British subject in 1868, joined the Royal Navy and rose to become an Admiral of the Fleet and First Sea Lord in 1914.

During the First World War Prince Louis changed the family name to Mountbatten and was created Marquess of Milford Haven. Prince Philip adopted the family name of Mountbatten when he became a naturalised British subject and renounced his Royal title in 1947.

Prince Louis married one of Queen Victoria's granddaughters. Thus, The Queen and Prince Philip both have Queen Victoria as a great-great-grandmother. They are also related through his father's side. His paternal grandfather, King George I of Greece, was Queen Alexandra's brother.
Prince Philip is as much Greek as he is Danish or English

So the Queens husband is from the same German family line, in keeping with the British trend of marrying ones distant relatives....... :grin:

Adding to this George I was the first of the Queens German line (Hanoverian), he was 50'th in line to the throne and the best candidate from the Stewart (Scottish) line due to his protestant faith.......




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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #42 on: 18 January 2012, 21:52 »
WHy did i just read all that??

you boring cnut!!  :grin:
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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #43 on: 18 January 2012, 23:01 »
Where does the royal family stand on this? Is there not close ties blood aswell with scots and brits?

The royal family are greek & german  :grin:

Very German yes but the Greek bit is a bit of banter really

Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth and Baron Greenwich, was born Prince of Greece and Denmark in Corfu on 10 June 1921.

He was born the only son of Prince Andrew of Greece. His paternal family is of Danish descent - Prince Andrew was the grandson of King Christian IX of Denmark.

His mother was Princess Alice of Battenberg, the eldest child of Prince Louis of Battenberg and sister of Earl Mountbatten of Burma. Prince Louis became a naturalised British subject in 1868, joined the Royal Navy and rose to become an Admiral of the Fleet and First Sea Lord in 1914.

During the First World War Prince Louis changed the family name to Mountbatten and was created Marquess of Milford Haven. Prince Philip adopted the family name of Mountbatten when he became a naturalised British subject and renounced his Royal title in 1947.

Prince Louis married one of Queen Victoria's granddaughters. Thus, The Queen and Prince Philip both have Queen Victoria as a great-great-grandmother. They are also related through his father's side. His paternal grandfather, King George I of Greece, was Queen Alexandra's brother.
Prince Philip is as much Greek as he is Danish or English

So the Queens husband is from the same German family line, in keeping with the British trend of marrying ones distant relatives....... :grin:

Adding to this George I was the first of the Queens German line (Hanoverian), he was 50'th in line to the throne and the best candidate from the Stewart (Scottish) line due to his protestant faith.......





The royal family have so much interest in Scotland most of there homes are based there so point missed plus there still is Stuart/Stewart Mary queen of Scotts connection. :tongue:

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #44 on: 19 January 2012, 09:29 »
So basically they are inbred Germans   :lipsrsealed:

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #45 on: 19 January 2012, 13:08 »
So basically they are inbred Germans   :lipsrsealed:

Yes with distant links to the Scottish Stewart family tree, and dare I say their own sister fckin tendancies :grin:
The Queen mother was the last non Royal non German to marry into the the family for about 100 years.
She was born into Scottish nobility, so you could say the Queen is more Scottish than any of the other home nations......
Where does the royal family stand on this? Is there not close ties blood aswell with scots and brits?

The royal family are greek & german  :grin:

Very German yes but the Greek bit is a bit of banter really

Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth and Baron Greenwich, was born Prince of Greece and Denmark in Corfu on 10 June 1921.

He was born the only son of Prince Andrew of Greece. His paternal family is of Danish descent - Prince Andrew was the grandson of King Christian IX of Denmark.

His mother was Princess Alice of Battenberg, the eldest child of Prince Louis of Battenberg and sister of Earl Mountbatten of Burma. Prince Louis became a naturalised British subject in 1868, joined the Royal Navy and rose to become an Admiral of the Fleet and First Sea Lord in 1914.

During the First World War Prince Louis changed the family name to Mountbatten and was created Marquess of Milford Haven. Prince Philip adopted the family name of Mountbatten when he became a naturalised British subject and renounced his Royal title in 1947.

Prince Louis married one of Queen Victoria's granddaughters. Thus, The Queen and Prince Philip both have Queen Victoria as a great-great-grandmother. They are also related through his father's side. His paternal grandfather, King George I of Greece, was Queen Alexandra's brother.
Prince Philip is as much Greek as he is Danish or English

So the Queens husband is from the same German family line, in keeping with the British trend of marrying ones distant relatives....... :grin:

Adding to this George I was the first of the Queens German line (Hanoverian), he was 50'th in line to the throne and the best candidate from the Stewart (Scottish) line due to his protestant faith.......





The royal family have so much interest in Scotland most of there homes are based there so point missed plus there still is Stuart/Stewart Mary queen of Scotts connection. :tongue:
I did point out the Stewart connection in my rambling royal dictate but was trying keep the reading down :grin:
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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #46 on: 19 January 2012, 13:17 »
From what I have seen in the past the money & coins have remained with the queens head regardless of independence from England.
There would be a logistical nightmare if another mint would have to produce Scotish money, open to loads of possible conterfiting.
 

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #47 on: 19 January 2012, 14:49 »
Just heard on The World at One on Radio 4 that the SNP wan't to take 10% of the UK armed forces with them for keeps - for the Scotland Defence Force.  They justify this by saying that Scotland contributes 10% directly to Uk Tax revenue, so they want 10% of the Defence Budget.

So for starters they want the Royal Regiment Of Scotland, The Royal Scots Dragoons, The Scots Guards. etc...

But....and here's the kicker. They wan't the Faslane base out, but will not pay anything towards the costs.

Cake & eat it?  :rolleyes:






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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #48 on: 19 January 2012, 15:34 »
From what I have seen in the past the money & coins have remained with the queens head regardless of independence from England.
There would be a logistical nightmare if another mint would have to produce Scotish money, open to loads of possible conterfiting.
 

You do realise scotland have different notes anyway, it may be legal sterling but the notes are bank of scotland not bank of england.

It does make me laugh that people think the Scottish are too stupid to run their own country & print their own money  :grin:

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #49 on: 19 January 2012, 15:38 »
they'll be using the euro within a year of 'independance'  :wink: