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Offline The Mighty Elvi

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #30 on: 16 January 2012, 18:57 »
Aye...send them all down the mines to work.

Oh...hang on.


1 Billion tonnes of coal discovered beneath Swansea Bay.   :rolleyes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-16567883



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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #31 on: 16 January 2012, 22:02 »
Oil isnt the problem anyway.. plenty left.

Imigration, dole monkeys, benifit wasters, free housing+cars for layabouts and tbh people going to uni to do mikey mouse degrees like film studys, history of shakespear and art history from 19oatcake that scottish taxpayers pay for... these problems in scotland and the uk need sorted out, not dicking about with independance...

Apologies for being rude, but i work hard as f*uck and sure all you do also.. and to see taxes wasted sickens me  :grin:

in my opinion those things need sorted and are a bigger issue than independancd..

Nail hit firmly on head.
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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #32 on: 16 January 2012, 22:24 »
Oil isnt the problem anyway.. plenty left.

Imigration, dole monkeys, benifit wasters, free housing+cars for layabouts and tbh people going to uni to do mikey mouse degrees like film studys, history of shakespear and art history from 19oatcake that scottish taxpayers pay for... these problems in scotland and the uk need sorted out, not dicking about with independance...

Apologies for being rude, but i work hard as f*uck and sure all you do also.. and to see taxes wasted sickens me  :grin:

in my opinion those things need sorted and are a bigger issue than independancd..

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #33 on: 16 January 2012, 23:54 »
Its funny just about every Scott I have spoken to is dead against the idea, which i must say gives me some faith in the country.

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #35 on: 17 January 2012, 12:17 »
I am a Scot.

The more I look into this the more I distrust, and to put it bluntly dislike, the approach of Alex Salmond. His behaviour is giving me the impression that he thinks he is the saviour of Scotland, and that Scotland is a people united behind him.

On both points I think he is entirely misled. Whilst I will never pass up an opportunity to have a jibe at our southern neighbours  :grin:, I am fully of the belief that Scotland functions better as part of the United Kingdom and, alongside my Scottish national pride, I also feel proud to be part of the United Kingdom. I do not for one minute wish to be separated from the United Kingdom. I believe the step would be backwards and also, to be perfectly honest, petty.

Of all my friends and family, I can't think of one who would genuinely disagree with what I have outlined above. Yet I am becoming increasingly apprehensive that, should a referendum occur, Scotland may indeed leave the United Kingdom purely due to the misleading propoganda of the Scottish Nationalists and their play on national pride.

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #36 on: 17 January 2012, 12:50 »
Where does the royal family stand on this? Is there not close ties blood aswell with scots and brits?

Just found this!
The Parliament and the Scottish Ministers who make up the Government are elected for a fixed term. For the first three terms it was four years, for the current 2011-16 term it is five years.

The latest election was held on May 5, 2011. The Scottish National Party (SNP) won a majority of the seats and formed the Government with Alex Salmond returning as First Minister, having held the position for the four years of the previous administration.

Devolved powers are Health, Education and Training, Local Government, Social Work, Housing, Planning, Tourism, Economic Development, Law and Home Affairs, Police and Fire, The Environment, Natural and Built Heritage, Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries, Sport and The Arts, Statistics, Transport.

Reserved powers are Foreign Affairs, Defence and National Security, and Social Security.

In January 2012, the Scottish Government confirmed its intention to hold a referendum on Scottish independence in the autumn of 2014.

The Scottish Government was known as the Scottish Executive until the name was changed in September 2007.

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #37 on: 17 January 2012, 12:56 »
Where does the royal family stand on this? Is there not close ties blood aswell with scots and brits?

The royal family are greek & german  :grin:

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #38 on: 17 January 2012, 13:10 »
Where does the royal family stand on this? Is there not close ties blood aswell with scots and brits?

The royal family are greek & german  :grin:

House of Stuart/Stewart?
Just thought the King James had some connection to royals?
Palace of Holyroodhouse
The Palace of Holyroodhouse, commonly known as Holyrood Palace, in Edinburgh is the Queen’s official residence in Scotland. The palace is situated at the end of the famous Royal Mile, which extends up to Edinburgh Castle. Mary, Queen of Scots lived here between 1561 and 1567, and successive kings and queens have made this their premier residence in Scotland.

The Queen has an official Holyrood Week, which runs from the end of June to the beginning of July. During this week the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh entertain guests at an annual garden party, a tradition that dates back to King George V and Queen Mary. The ceremony is attended by guests from all walks of Scottish life.

The Palace is open to visitors, and an exhibition of Royal photography is on display until June.

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Balmoral Castle
Balmoral Castle, in Royal Deeside, Aberdeenshire, has been the Scottish home of the Royal Family since it was purchased for Queen Victoria by Prince Albert in 1848. Much loved by Queen Victoria, she Balmoral in her journals as “my dear paradise in the Highlands”.

The Royal Family are usually in residence between September and the beginning of October, where the grounds are closed to the public.

Many royals have spent part of their honey moon at Balmoral, including The Queen and Prince Phillip, Prince Charles and the late Princess Diana, Prince Edward and Sophie the Countess of Wessex, and Prince Charles and Camilla the Duchess of Cornwall.

In 1992 Princess Anne married Timothy Laurence in Crathie Kirk, which lies close to Balmoral. The Kirk is best known for its regular attendance by the Royal Family who worship here during their stays at the castle.

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Glamis Castle
Glamis Castle, in Angus, has been the family home of the Earls of Strathmore for over 600 years. Glamis was the childhood home of the Queen Mother, Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, whose parents were Lord and Lady Glamis. At the age of four, Elizabeth’s grandfather, who was the current Earl, passed away and her father inherited the Earldom and with it Glamis Castle. The family then divided their time between Glamis Castle and two other royal residences.

Glamis has many stories and legends attached to it and is thought to be one of the most haunted castles in Britain.


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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #39 on: 17 January 2012, 13:39 »
Reduction in oil produced/refined is real (peak oil), the amount we have is still enough to keep us running for a very very long time.

mate most of the reduction is due to the government taxing the industry to the max many conpanies have suspended there drilling programes to concentrate on foreign sources as they dont get taxed like they do in the uk.... total is about to double production at st fergus in scotland nobody knows what we have left as ee find new ways of tapping areas we couldnt before... as i said due to tax its not worth certain companies producing at smaller rates so they simply stop

I know and that's what my post implied, that the amount of oil drilled per year has gone down over the years on a global scale - although this may not represent a small local scale in some areas, where the big boys have left and the smaller companies have come in to suck out the rest :smiley:

No matter, Scotland leaving the UK shouldn't happen for many reasons and if they did it'd f#ck up a lot.
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