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Offline bobotheclown

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #10 on: 14 January 2012, 22:37 »
if they were to go independent, would I need a passport to go to scotland? That would be weird.

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #11 on: 14 January 2012, 22:38 »
if they were to go independent, would I need a passport to go to scotland? That would be weird.
Most likely and yes very weird

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #12 on: 14 January 2012, 23:56 »
I see lots of potential problems with this.

First of all, if they're no longer under Sovereign, would they need to change currency?
As I don't think they'd still use the pound, would they go Euro?

And what about the impact of all the Scottish regiments leaving the military?

Would they still be able to use the BBC?

It would also cost them a fortune in admin for setting up their own tax offices, collection, seperate NHS admin, military, consulates, embassies, passports etc.

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #13 on: 15 January 2012, 00:15 »
Stupid idea. The rest of Europe is trying to pull together and become one for many good reasons and there is Scotland trying to f#ck it all up :rolleyes: Pull their EU passports, impose sanctions on them and stand over the border pulling tongues at them :tongue:  :tongue:  until they send all their women over here for... actually, they can keep their women :sick:


Would they still be able to use the BBC?


Screw the c#nts overs and charge them for it :evil:
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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #14 on: 15 January 2012, 08:15 »
If scotland want to leave the UK, theycan take their fair share of the UK debt too. The oil is running out and at the moment doesn't bring in as much money as it used to. Besides, oil is worth bugger all if you don't know how to process it - the oil companies do this.

They would also have no place in parliament so they couldn't have a say on any issues. Scotland also have a higher spend per person because of no tuition fees, free prescriptions etc. All of the military installations would have to be moved, so fewer people in Scotland.

Going back to debt, the UK is £1 trillion in debt. They would have to take with them at least 10% of the debt. That's around £100 billion. Don't forget there's interest to pay on that debt. Income from oil is around £12 billion. No idea what public expenditure is in Scotland. It just isn't going to work.

The problem is Scotland want all the oil fields (including some of those that belong to England), and none of the debt. Well they can feck off. If they want independence, they can have some of the debt too.

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #15 on: 15 January 2012, 08:58 »
if they were to go independent, would I need a passport to go to scotland? That would be weird.

in that case its a good thing i visited Scotland back in 2006,just loved it  :cool:

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #16 on: 15 January 2012, 09:02 »
I'm really confused in all of this.

I'm aware Westminster haven't yet deemed it as legal to have a vote, however, it does all seem to progressing with a good head of steam. At what point are NI going to kick off about this? Certain people have - violently - been campaigning for it to be part of Ireland again with no result, yet Scotland mention they want out and it seems to be moving swiftly along?

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #17 on: 15 January 2012, 10:02 »
Would be weird for me as I have lived in England for 28 years now if they went independent would I need a visa to stay in England lol

I think they should be allowed to have the vote & be allowed to have the vote when they want to have it.

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #18 on: 15 January 2012, 11:49 »
I'm really confused in all of this.

I'm aware Westminster haven't yet deemed it as legal to have a vote, however, it does all seem to progressing with a good head of steam. At what point are NI going to kick off about this? Certain people have - violently - been campaigning for it to be part of Ireland again with no result, yet Scotland mention they want out and it seems to be moving swiftly along?

NI are the opposite, the Protestant population want union and some of the Catholics want to be part of Eire.
Eire dropped its claim on the counties of Northern Ireland as part of the GFA so that peace could be pursued, so the violence is carried out by a dwindling few.
It is quite alarming to see how many people have died in this conflict since 1921, something which should be avoided in this case at all costs

Scotland can propose this vote due its position after devolution and it is a democratic right but if we gave them back only the bits without the oil ports like Aberdeen then I am sure there would some blood spilled.
The fairest and safest way to sort this out is to give Scotland some other options and allow a fair democratic vote and stick by its outcome.


If Scotland gets to vote I think we should get our referendum on Europe, which Bliar promised the same year he promised devolution to the Scott's....
I think if the UK splits into just England, then the single European state is a certainty and we will be forced to join like it or not, or we could become part of the USA "Old England" :grin:

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Re: Independent Scotland....
« Reply #19 on: 15 January 2012, 12:16 »
a 'independant' scotland will just be another b!tch for the big EU boys to play with  :wink:

anyone been up there lately? every new building/road or factory has been subsidised by the eu,every tourist board sign has the eu flag before or over the scottish flag,every hotel has at least 1 eu rag flying from its flag poles (your'll hardly ever see a cross of st George!).you can bet your house on the fact that the eu are pulling that knob salmonds strings,he wants to go down in scottish folk law as the man who got 'independance' from us nasty English, but as with ALL politicans,he's just a clever talker who's pulling the wool over the ignorant masses who hate the English as a pass time and are to daft to look at the bigger picture that will come with 'independance'.

i support the union thats kept all 4 nations safe for 300 odd years,but the world is,sadly,changing,so if they get a yes vote,and its legal,see ya,enjoy using the euro and having even more of your laws imposed on ya by the eussr  :kiss: