Auto Bid - Golf Mark 7

[evo1986]

The golf gti will never the the fastest hot hatch but no doubt it will be the best.

Others need ridiculous bhp to compete with the golfs all round practically and heritage.

[dubber36]

You should be a salesman Lee. 

[MAW73]

Corsa's and fiesta's???   Ok the GTI is not the fastest hot hatch out there and it could be argued that it isn't "hot" at all when compared to the likes of the focus ST or VXR but what it is is a very competent all rounder, to compare it to quick supermini's is rediculous imo.

If all i wanted to do was drive everywhere flat out i'd buy a Focus RS and have change from what i paid for mine to fill the tank but i don't, i quite like the relatively comfortable ride and half decent fuel economy and not looking like a complete tit with bright green paint or daft chequered flag stickers.

Point is that there is a place for the GTI, that may well be behind other hot hatches but that suits me as well as lot of others out there.

Nail on head.

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[mkviken]

thing is while the other cars are getting bigger and fatter the golf is getting lighter so dynamically weight saving is the best way to go. if it is 70kg lighter than the current car it will make a big difference in all aspects of driving.

give me a GTI over a vxr any day of the week. ok its quick but handles like a pig and looks like a 8 year old drew it.


and i agree - as a do anything and be anything car everyone wants and can live with the GTI wins hands down. its THE hot hatch for every man. I'm sure the mk7 with be even better again.



plus i think it will come with more than a claimed 220bhp. VW aren't stupid and seem very smart at product/market placement.

[ajmoir36]

I have to admit the mk7 has a lot to live up to for me to change from the mk6.

[evo1986]

You should be a salesman Lee. 

First day of holiday and I cant help myself. Cheese............

[I.D.C.]

Golf Recent road test against.
New model Focus
New model Astra
New model Civic
New mdel BMW 1
It has to be remembered the current Golf is an older mark 5 with some changes. Yes this older car ( GOLF ) Beat all the new models that have just come onto the market place.
There is something that can be 'guaranteed' the next mark 7 GTI will be a much better car than the current one.

If there is a poster comparing a Fiesta and Corsa to a GOLF then I would suggest he takes his Golf to his nearest dealer for it to be checked out as something must be seriously wrong with his Golf.

[PenguinGTI]

As much as the talk of 220hp makes me  , I still don't think it would ultimately put me off the GTI.

The GTI is no longer the premium golf, the R brand is. It now competes with the VXR/ST etc and the GTI becomes the lower sports model.

I wouldn't necessarily agree with this. I think it would be fairer to say that there are three premium Golfs.

1. The R is the performance flagship with the most power, the best traction and the most aggressive styling.
2. The GTD is the diesel flagship with great styling, real class and solid fuel consumption.
3. The GTI is the petrol flagship in terms of refinement, class and all-round ability.

All well and good aiming it at the corsa/fiesta etc, but pricing it well above is silly.

I don't think comparing the Golf GTI to a corsa/fiesta is all well and good. That's what the polo is for. Would you compare you're S3 to a Corsa/ fiesta... I don't think so. It's not just about power, it's also about build quality, refinement, class, practicality, size, safety etc etc.

thing is while the other cars are getting bigger and fatter the golf is getting lighter so dynamically weight saving is the best way to go. if it is 70kg lighter than the current car it will make a big difference in all aspects of driving.

give me a GTI over a vxr any day of the week. ok its quick but handles like a pig and looks like a 8 year old drew it.

and i agree - as a do anything and be anything car everyone wants and can live with the GTI wins hands down. its THE hot hatch for every man. I'm sure the mk7 with be even better again.

plus i think it will come with more than a claimed 220bhp. VW aren't stupid and seem very smart at product/market placement.

70kg isn't much to shout about. I'm sure some people on this forum could lose a lot more simply by not having as many options. Although your argument is spot on. VW are looking to constantly refine the Golf model family as a whole and this can be achieved by doing more than just chucking more power out of the engines.

But it's the last part of you're comment "VW aren't stupid and seem very smart at product/market placement." which hits the nail on the head. The problem for the GTI is not VW's capability, but the ceiling created for it in terms of performance by the R. VW wanted to save money with the Mk6 and as a result the R model was released with an older, tried and tested engine (taken straight from the S3). This created a dilemma in that the GTI would have to concede a significant power deficit compared to the R, hence the 210hp quoted figure. VW knew exactly how to market the GTI and R brands which, unfortunately for us GTI owners, left us feeling a little underpowered.

Hopefully the R will get the power it too deserves in the Mk7 (which should be over 300 at least) therefore allowing the GTI to once again bring the fight to it's own competitors from other brands (the Astra VXR, the Focus ST etc).

 

[jdjd]

Problem is the new corsa and fiesta both likely to have the same power as the GTI, those of you who say the gti doesn't compete against them are kidding yourselfs, both likely to be 9k cheaper:

 

[I.D.C.]

Problem is the new corsa and fiesta both likely to have the same power as the GTI, those of you who say the gti doesn't compete against them are kidding yourselfs, both likely to be 9k cheaper:

 

So the GTI wont compete with it's direct competitors from Ford Vaux Honda BMW ? Many of you also seem to think it will be priced far too high. Again my money is on it being competitive against it's competitors, it's not rocket science it has to be.
Everyone will have a better idea when the new A3 comes which will be as close to the new Golf's running gear as your going to get. It will also be priced much higher than a Golf.