job question

[mcgee9t2]

Me and a few mates have planned to go away for 2 days and basically have a big piss up see mates we havent seen for a year or so ect ect ect.

We were going to be getting the train at 10 tomorow. he has just rang me saying his boss has just told him hes working 4pm-4am tomorow up to christmas (he cant take a day holiday cause apaarentlybits too short notice) now that seems out of order to me. Hes fine with starting the shifts on sunday. ect. But as you can see that compleatly f**ks up. the planns weve had for months.

Anything he can do cause if you ask me thats not right saying oh your working these shifts for the next 6week and its enough notice for you to have to work them but not enough to take a days holiday

and dont turn this into a hes lucky to have a job screw your plans ect. Thread its more the principle of respect for each other hes happy to work the shifts starting on sunday. hed even take a days unpaid leve instead of holiday but his boss says its too short notice

[Deano2711]

My company ask for 48 hours notice for holidays etc and the normal is the same grace from the employer but it does all depend what is written in his Contract of Employment really. If the Contract states hours to suit the company (which a lot tend to do nowadays) then there is not a lot he can do. Check the small print first but not really on and he could not be sacked for refusing to give up a days holiday which has been booked for some time.

[The Mighty Elvi]

You/he needs to have a look at his contract.  If he's fixed hours/times then he can appeal, as it were.

If it just says something like 40 hours 5 days out of 7. Then his manager has the right to decide when those hours are allocated.  Notice of new shifts would again be in his contract.


By the way.  Its etc, as in Et cetera.  A Latin expression that means "and other things", or "and so forth"

Not ETC.

HTH

[mcgee9t2]

he could not be sacked for refusing to give up a days holiday which has been booked for some time.

it wasnt a days holiday, normally he works day shifts but occasionally does a week or two of night shifts and today they decided hes on nights for the next 6 weeks but isnt alowed to take a days holiday cause its too short notice.

You/he needs to have a look at his contract.  If he's fixed hours/times then he can appeal, as it were.

If it just says something like 40 hours 5 days out of 7. Then his manager has the right to decide when those hours are allocated.  Notice of new shifts would again be in his contract.


By the way.  Its etc, as in Et cetera.  A Latin expression that means "and other things", or "and so forth"

Not ETC.

HTH

i always get ect and etc mixed up  cheers i will tell him to have a look at his contract ect.

the main reason he really wants the day off is cause noone really wants to go and leave him behind and weve all declined/rearanged other things to do this and would be out of pocket if we dont go and sorted out places to stay and others have used up the last of there holidays from work to have this weekend off ect and this is the last time we will be able to do this untill like march or something cause of other commitments

[jv]

i always get ect and etc mixed up

So do many people... 

By the way.  Its etc, as in Et cetera.  A Latin expression that means "and other things", or "and so forth"

Not ETC.

HTH

[R32UK]

has he tried talking to his boss about this situation?

what was the reason for such short notice? not very good management skils imo

[The Mighty Elvi]

Damn you! JV.

LOL!

[mcgee9t2]

has he tried talking to his boss about this situation?

what was the reason for such short notice? not very good management skils imo

not sure for the reason for such short notice as i said its my mate not me. all i know is he went into work this morning, started grafting away then his manager came up to him and said your shifts are changing your on continental  shifts now (meaning 4-4) starting tomorow, he said can i have a days holiday tomorow and his boss said no not unless you have a funeral to attend or simelar and walked off.

[JC]

Sounds like he didn't book the time off.

Even if my time off is a weekend I still book it so work know I have plans .

Prior planning prevents piss poor performance 

[mcgee9t2]

Sounds like he didn't book the time off.

Even if my time off is a weekend I still book it so work know I have plans .

Prior planning prevents piss poor performance 

he couldnt book a days holiday though, he normally works mon-fri days, so couldnt take a days holiday when he wasnt ment to be working that day.