Tivo box has scart, HDMI, USB, Questions?

[clipperjay]

I've got a first gen LCD TV its got AV composite cable Svideo and scart.
I've ran the xbox360 through the composite AV cable and its really clear not sure true HD but good!
How do I run the TIVO in HD would I buy a scart to composite or HDMI to composite?
Plus I want to view my second TIVO box through the monitor in the bedroom for the late night sessions, and I have a ASUS monitor 21" with a 2.0 USB x 3, DVI, VGA, AV composite, and a firewire type of plug?
Cheers
Jay
 

[Scottydog89]

Hey

You can get HDMI to composite cables I believe. That's ok for connected to your TV for now but I would say start saving some pennies and get a latest gen TV with 3/4 HDMI ports for your Xbox/TiVo etc.

Composite and SCART are analog so not Full HD..

For the monitor just buy a HDMI to DVI cable, that should sort it.

I have a TiVo box myself and it is brill! Can't wait until red button is sorted and Spotify is released for it though

[clipperjay]

Cool I wonder if virgin will supply the cables I need they said they would set everything up 

[Scottydog89]

They might give you a scart lead if your lucky lol

You never know though..

[DubFan]

Composite and SCART are analogue so not Full HD..

SCART is not HD at all. It's standard definition.

If you have a set of 3 phono sockets on the back of the TV that are Red, Green and Blue, like this:

along with a white one and a red one (for audio), then that will be an Analogue HD input.
But the TiVo box doesn't have analogue HD out, just HDMI for HD or SCART for standard definition.
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More importantly it sounds like your LCD TV can't do HD at all.
It should say "HD Ready" on it somewhere if it can do HD.
If you don't have either an HDMI, DVI or a component connection like above with the 3 phono sockets, then it can't do HD.
Not all LCDs can do HD.
If that's the case, you'll need a new TV to view TV programmes in HD and until then you'll just have to use it on SCART and watch in non-HD.

As for your bedroom, does the Asus monitor have an HDMI socket like this (the circled one):

Then that's HDMI, and you can just run an single HDMI cable from the TiVo box to the monitor.
If not, and it only has a DVI, then you'll need an HDMI to DVI cable but then you'll also need to run another cable for sound as DVI doesn't include sound.

HTH

[clipperjay]

Monitor:
Component 1 
Composite 1 
Downstream USB ports 1 
DVI 1 
Headphone Jack 1 
S-Video 1 
Upstream USB ports 2 
VGA 1 

TV
Component 1 
Composite 1 
TWO scart
Svideo
VGA

Its HD ready proberly only 720P but the Xbox runs perfectly through HD mode?

I've got a logitech 5.1 with three normal audio jacks. Whats the best way to get the second Tivo sound through them?
Can I use the computer to sample through the optical digital audio cable then through the jacks to the 5.1?
Just realised the ethernet cable and USB are service ports and are not active, shame I could use the extra 1T bytes for computing LOL!  

[DubFan]

Monitor:
Component 1 
Composite 1 
Downstream USB ports 1 
DVI 1 
Headphone Jack 1 
S-Video 1 
Upstream USB ports 2 
VGA 1 

Ok, so that's easy enough.
As suggested, an HDMI to DVI cable like this http://www.maplin.co.uk/hdmi-to-dvi-digital-video-leads-48585 Will do the video side.

TV
Component 1 
Composite 1 
TWO scart
Svideo
VGA

Its HD ready proberly only 720P but the Xbox runs perfectly through HD mode?

Just realised the ethernet cable and USB are service ports and are not active, shame I could use the extra 1T bytes for computing LOL!  

There's rumours that they might do a software update to enable the USB ports for playing files off external storage devices.

Right, the big problem you've got here is that the TiVo box only has HDMI output for HD pictures, and the TV only has Component input for HD pictures. These are not compatible unless you buy a converter box to convert a digital HDMI signal from the TiVo to an analogue signal for the TV's Component input. These are expensive and this would also then mean you have the additional problem of having 2 devices (TiVo and Xbox) wanting to be connected to the same sockets on the TV.
To solve that problem you either buy a switch box or manually swap cables everytime or have one of them connected via the SCART socket (and then not in HD).
So basically the easier (more expensive option) is to buy a new TV with at least 2 HDMI inputs.
Sorry.

I've got a logitech 5.1 with three normal audio jacks. Whats the best way to get the second Tivo sound through them?
Can I use the computer to sample through the optical digital audio cable then through the jacks to teh 5.1?

Is this in your front room or the bedroom with the computer monitor?
I don't think you could use your computer to convert digital audio from the TiVo into the right connections for the Logitech speaker system.
What you need is an optical digital input on your speaker system and connect the optical output from the TiVo directly to this.
Besides getting the computer to do any conversion would give you a delay on the audio, which would be rubbish when watching TV.
Also, if the speakers are set up in such a way around the place you sit to use the computer, it's unlikely that the speakers are in the right places for surround sound while watching TV. (Unless your TV is your computer monitor)

[clipperjay]

Okay easiest option here I see is to buy a HDMI to componet for about £10.00?
shame about DVi only supplying video hence I thought I could rig the audio directly to the logitech, but its anologue!
I have no hardware that can handle the optical except the computer, and this would be a pain to run a program just to pic it up via the comps input and output to the 5.1.

If I could use those USB's I might have had a solution 

Unless I use the scart to get the audio, but I'm not sure if the Tivio can provide vision and sound from seperate sources?

[DubFan]

Okay easiest option here I see is to buy a HDMI to componet for about £10.00?

I'm not sure that would work, HDMI being digital and component being analogue it needs some sort of conversion in between. I'm not sure those cheap cables work like that.

shame about DVi only supplying video hence I thought I could rig the audio directly to the logitech, but its anologue!
I have no hardware that can handle the optical except the computer, and this would be a pain to run a program just to pic it up via the comps input and output to the 5.1.

Unless I use the scart to get the audio, but I'm not sure if the Tivio can provide vision and sound from seperate sources?

I'm sure the audio from the SCART will be working even when using the video from the HDMI to DVI cable. So that solution will work for your other room. No surround but it'll work. You may see a slight delay between the audio and video because of coming from different signal paths, but you won't know that till you try.

[clipperjay]

Well Spoken to the Virgin team and they said they will have everything to set me up? Whatever that means LOL
I know that the Xbox 360 works well like that in HD. The componet cables are split with the left and right audio jacks.
I'm hoping this will work just as well.

Good to hear I can split the audio from the scart though..
Did read somewhere there are three settings on the Tivo 560P, 720P, & 1080i
I'll wait untill I get it and see what the techies have in mind and I'll just have to start testing a few solutions!
Thanks
Mate will report back what worked for me around the 8th December!