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Offline Ben Lessani

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Re: sky vs BT infinity
« Reply #10 on: 03 November 2011, 21:27 »
which is why I am asking whether FTTC (fibre to the cabinet) will benefit me if I am with sky when it is implemented by BT

Yes and no.

No, in the sense that having your cab fibre enabled will not likely enhance your ADSL connection speeds.
Yes, in the sense that, if Sky take advantage of the fibre, you could change your ADSL presentation to FTTC (assuming they let you switch mid contract).

The FTTC delivery dates are fairly vague at best. BT Openreach have a definitive document that has confirmed dates for the next exchanges rolled out, everything else just has a far-future date as an estimate.

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Re: sky vs BT infinity
« Reply #11 on: 03 November 2011, 22:30 »
thank you.. i pretty much know that without FTTC my speed is going to be pretty dire... but I can live with that at such a cost saving

its paying through the nose for sh!te broadband speed that i can't stand!

i will only be using it for general surfing etc when at home

Well at £7.50 per month for unlimited, sky's pretty good.

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Re: sky vs BT infinity
« Reply #12 on: 03 November 2011, 22:38 »
Just because Samknows says you can haz FTTC, does not mean you can haz FTTC. Even if your exchange is enabled, dun mean your green box has it or will have it anytime soon.

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/SMSM


We're an ISP and don't even know when we'll have it in our Oxford office so are getting a leased line put in for the hell of it as everything we host is in Lundun on ze 'back bone'.
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Re: sky vs BT infinity
« Reply #13 on: 03 November 2011, 23:36 »
thank you.. i pretty much know that without FTTC my speed is going to be pretty dire... but I can live with that at such a cost saving

its paying through the nose for sh!te broadband speed that i can't stand!

i will only be using it for general surfing etc when at home

Well at £7.50 per month for unlimited, sky's pretty good.

Or paying nothing and having as much usage as I'll need anyway is even better! :)

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Re: sky vs BT infinity
« Reply #14 on: 04 November 2011, 11:57 »
thank you.. i pretty much know that without FTTC my speed is going to be pretty dire... but I can live with that at such a cost saving

its paying through the nose for sh!te broadband speed that i can't stand!

i will only be using it for general surfing etc when at home

Well at £7.50 per month for unlimited, sky's pretty good.



Or paying nothing and having as much usage as I'll need anyway is even better! :)

Lol, everyday lite then. 2.0GB a month enough?

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Re: sky vs BT infinity
« Reply #15 on: 04 November 2011, 12:17 »
thank you.. i pretty much know that without FTTC my speed is going to be pretty dire... but I can live with that at such a cost saving

its paying through the nose for sh!te broadband speed that i can't stand!

i will only be using it for general surfing etc when at home

Well at £7.50 per month for unlimited, sky's pretty good.



Or paying nothing and having as much usage as I'll need anyway is even better! :)

Lol, everyday lite then. 2.0GB a month enough?

plenty :)

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Re: sky vs BT infinity
« Reply #16 on: 04 November 2011, 13:10 »
We're an ISP and don't even know when we'll have it in our Oxford office so are getting a leased line put in for the hell of it as everything we host is in Lundun on ze 'back bone'.

Leased line? Any reason you're not just going with copper/fibre EFM - comparatively the SLAs are similar, but pricing differs significantly.

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Re: sky vs BT infinity
« Reply #17 on: 04 November 2011, 13:20 »
which is why I am asking whether FTTC (fibre to the cabinet) will benefit me if I am with sky when it is implemented by BT

Yes and no.

No, in the sense that having your cab fibre enabled will not likely enhance your ADSL connection speeds.
Yes, in the sense that, if Sky take advantage of the fibre, you could change your ADSL presentation to FTTC (assuming they let you switch mid contract).

The FTTC delivery dates are fairly vague at best. BT Openreach have a definitive document that has confirmed dates for the next exchanges rolled out, everything else just has a far-future date as an estimate.

cheers Ben - thank you for your input... what you say about FTTC dates actually makes a lot of sense... just because its at the exchange don't mean its at the cabinet!! doh!

Sky it is.. thanks for your help everyone!

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Re: sky vs BT infinity
« Reply #18 on: 04 November 2011, 13:37 »
We're an ISP and don't even know when we'll have it in our Oxford office so are getting a leased line put in for the hell of it as everything we host is in Lundun on ze 'back bone'.

Leased line? Any reason you're not just going with copper/fibre EFM - comparatively the SLAs are similar, but pricing differs significantly.

MD decision after researching which options to go for and whats available in our area etc, minimum of 100Mb burstable to 1Gb  :cool:

and we're sharing it with a customer in the same building as us who use naff all  :grin:


cost to us = little compared to what it would normally cost  :wink:
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Re: sky vs BT infinity
« Reply #19 on: 04 November 2011, 16:05 »
@Jay, I wouldn't mind seeing some pricing information on a 100/1000MB line (100MB commit on 1GB line).

We use two DC's in Manchester for our rackspace, but we're moving into new premises and are dropping in a 10/100MB EFM fibre line for our day-to-day ops, looking to partition the remainder to other tenants in the building.

Which ISP do you work for?