vr6 ?

[johnnyvr6]

probly a holden hsv there identicle to monaro's

[AudiA8Quattro]

Regarding weight of the engines. A VR engine is heavier than the 1.8T, a guy on Vortex weighed one, the VR block minus head weigh in a 145KG, the 1.8T is between 80kg - 100kg with head

Have you got a link for that Brad?
When i looked into, the 1.8T was lighter by about 30kg. The reason being, the bottom end is good for something silly like 400bhp, so the block, pistons, rods etc are strengthened considerably. This adds alot of weight over most NA blocks. Also the turbo and intercooler and other little bits add extra weight the vr doesn't, its actual surprising how much extra weight the extra bits add on.
The vr is a very compact engine, single head 15 degrees with offset pistons, its not actually as big or heavy as people think.
I can't remember the actual weights, i will see if i can find the links, but they are close, that is complete engine v engine plus any extra bits.

[sharki786]

I don't really like either now, not since i got the V8 

I know what you mean, a CL500(?) V8 AMG ruined it for me, the shear power and noise of the thing! 

theres quiet few of these going round birms. i was in my car waiting at the traffic and saw a dog and i heard a bark and i go best to close your windows cuz as that dogs barking he started to laugh and said that wasnt the dog look behind, so i did AMG farking barking away, just by revving that beast i jizzed away

p.s only way to settle the weight issue is to take both engines out and weigh em

[F17BAD]

well me and ben have fitted both the S3 engine into my MK3, and a VR6 in to his MK3.. trust me the VR engine is heavier

links are on the web someplace, ill try find them when im home.. i did ask the question on ClubGTI as i said earlier...

[Len]

Brad how do you put the power down in your car?

My Passat has got 180bhp and runs on 225wide tyres and I can spin the wheels in 3rd if its a bit moist!
Dry weather and good grip I can spin the wheels in second real easy!
So in short I have less hp in a bigger/heavier car with wider tyres.

How do you manage?

[AudiA8Quattro]

Agree with what Len said, my old vr6 was remapped and it struggled with grip in 1st and 2nd, especially in the wet, and that is no where near the power you are running Brad.
Also as you said you fitted 1.8T and VR engines, but i presumed you used a hoist and didn't lift them in by hand? 
The VR IS the heavier engine, just pointing out that the turbo, intercooler and addition piping must weigh at least 20kg, when the weights between the two engines are considered, this must be included.
The 1.8T is heavy for a 4 cylinder, and the 6 cylinder isn't actually as big as people think, its all down to angles 

[VR6_Wherry]

When i went out in Alex's (LazyLunatic) in Portsmouth when it was wet that kept to the road very well and put the power down much better then my Vr. His had just come of the Rollers producing 230bhp too!

[dom]

I also regularly light up the traction control light on a damp road in third

[Bellend]

Quite happy poodling about on my Micra knowing that I'm not waiting for my clutch to give way. 

[F17BAD]

Brad how do you put the power down in your car?

My Passat has got 180bhp and runs on 225wide tyres and I can spin the wheels in 3rd if its a bit moist!
Dry weather and good grip I can spin the wheels in second real easy!
So in short I have less hp in a bigger/heavier car with wider tyres.

How do you manage?

It takes the power really really well actually, it has surprised me a lot.. i was told the MK3 (out of the MK 1,2 and 3) is much better for the high output engines for this reason and also high speed areo dynamics.. So to many peoples hate, the MK3 actually is a good choice for what I'm running... i could easily spin it in 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th.. its just knowing how to handle it... i wish i could show you all just how brutal it is..(i really don't know how anyone would want any more power - I'm only fitting the big turbo etc because this car is used as a advert for myself and ben)

Iv almost murdered my rubber tho (Yokohama) and in the wet it can be a real handful getting the power down...a bit too much if I'm honest and its times like this i think 4WD would be a god send .. I'm just telling it as it is...

My car is crying out for LSD, and before i fit the big turbo its getting one and uprated brakes becaus the high speed braking from 150MPH resulted in my pads smoking like mad

anymore power through mine it WILL be a big struggle, their is sooo much torque and it comes in low down and holds on right through the rev range, Carbon have not even finished with it yet so theirs much more to come.. i do love it, puts a massive grin on my face every time i drive it