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Offline The Mighty Elvi

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Re: can i run a white rear german plate
« Reply #20 on: 31 October 2011, 13:34 »
Just to clear this up you can run pressed plates only united kingdom font and at a standard size they also have to have the bs number on

My mate runs a set front and rear pressed uk plates with all the correct
bs numbers the police pull him but can do nothing and they HATE it  :evil:

The British Standard in not to do with pressed plates.  It covers ALL plates.

Seeing as people are too lazy to read the link.  :rolleyes:

VEHICLES REGISTERED ON OR AFTER 1ST JANUARY 1973 AND BEFORE 1ST SEPTEMBER 2001 (OPTIONAL SPECIFICATION)

1.  The plate must be made of reflex-reflecting material which, as regards its construction, colour and other qualities, complies with the requirements of—

(a)the British Standard Specification for reflex-reflecting number plates, published on 11 September 1972 under the number BS AU 145a(2), or


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VEHICLES REGISTERED AND NEW REGISTRATION PLATES FITTED ON OR AFTER 1ST SEPTEMBER 2001 (MANDATORY SPECIFICATION)

1.  The plate must be made of retroreflecting material which, as regards its construction, colour and other qualities, complies with the requirements of—

(a)the British Standard specification for retroreflecting number plates published on 15 January 1998 under number BS AU 145d(1), or


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BSAU 145D
The British Standard sets out the physical characteristics on the number plate. This includes:
Visibility
Strength
Reflectivity
The British Standard also requires that a number plate must be marked with the following information: -

The British Standard Number (currently BS AU 145d)
The name, trade mark, or other means of identification of the manufacturer or component supplier. (The company who actually make the number plate.)
The name and postcode of the supplying outlet. (The 'supplying outlet' is taken to mean a company whose business consists wholly or partly of selling number plates.)
A non-reflective border and the Euro-symbol with the national identification letters are optional additions.
There shall be no other markings or material contained on the number plate.
Further information about the British Standards requirements can be obtained at www.bsi-global.com.




Required:

White front plate (to British Standard BS AU 145d)
Yellow rear plate (to British Standard BS AU 145d)
The registration number of the bearer vehicle in the mandatory font (black ‘Charles Wright 2001’)
Spacing of characters and character groups in accordance with the measurements specified in the regulations. Variation is not permitted

Permitted but not required:

3D variation of the mandatory ‘Charles Wright 2001’ font
Coloured, non-reflective border
National emblem: English St George Cross with “ENG” legend, Scottish St Andrew Cross with “SCO” legend, Welsh Dragon with “WALES” and “CYMRU” legend, British Union Flag with “GB” legend) or Euro Stars symbol with “GB” legend.

No additions or variations are permitted. Common illegal variations are:

Fancy or decorative typefaces
Bolts placed in such a way as to alter the appearance of characters
Adjusted spacing between characters or character groups
Altered characters
Additional logos or symbols, such as sporting emblems and religious symbols.

There are concessions for older and vintage cars. “Historic vehicles”, i.e. those built prior to 1973, are permitted to bear the old-style black plates of either plastic or traditional metal construction.

To quote the DVLA: "Vehicles constructed before 1.1.73 may display traditional style ‘black and white’ plates i.e. white, silver or grey characters on a black plate."




Now, unless someone can point me to where it states that pressed plates are legal, they remain Illegal. just because you haven't been pulled, doesn't make them so.

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Re: can i run a white rear german plate
« Reply #21 on: 31 October 2011, 16:36 »
if there illegal surely an m.o.t tester wouldnt pass a car with them on  :undecided:

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Re: can i run a white rear german plate
« Reply #22 on: 31 October 2011, 17:05 »
@ Elvi:

Forgive me if I'm wrong because I'm fully aware Law is your forte.

But surely plates made by Dubmeister (and other similar companies) are legal.

They are produced using the Charles Wright typeface and conform to all of the BSAU 145D specifications with regards to visibility, strength & reflectivity. They are also stamped with the BSAU code and the name and postcode of the supplier, the supplier requires original proof of ID & registration to enable them to keep the appropriate records specified by the DVLA.

This means that they meet all of the criteria which is outlined in your post, plus it is also not specified anywhere that the plate cannot be made from pressed metal. How can they be illegal if they meet all the legal requirements?

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Re: can i run a white rear german plate
« Reply #23 on: 31 October 2011, 18:28 »
dubmeister plates are legal, they have spent big money making it so
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Re: can i run a white rear german plate
« Reply #24 on: 31 October 2011, 19:02 »
Any plates supplied without seeing docs are classed as show plates.

We make number plates in work and have to keep records.

Same but we don't.  :lipsrsealed:

Good thing is I made some old style plates with no postcode or anything pre-2001 style.  :smiley:

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Re: can i run a white rear german plate
« Reply #25 on: 31 October 2011, 19:51 »


Seeing as people are too lazy to read the link. 

It's not so much that. It's more that reading law jargon bores the bollocks off me so I wait until you get sufficiently aggravated to go and find all the pertinent bits and then lay it out for me.

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Re: can i run a white rear german plate
« Reply #26 on: 31 October 2011, 21:19 »
I am confused how Dubmeister plates are illegal.  :undecided:

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Re: can i run a white rear german plate
« Reply #27 on: 01 November 2011, 10:10 »
am confused how we,ve gone from running a white plate on the rear to wether pressed plates are legal or not  :grin: :grin:

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Re: can i run a white rear german plate
« Reply #28 on: 01 November 2011, 10:27 »
am confused how we,ve gone from running a white plate on the rear to wether pressed plates are legal or not  :grin: :grin:

Could be worse, could have moved on to aftermarket HIDs  :grin:  :lipsrsealed:

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Re: can i run a white rear german plate
« Reply #29 on: 01 November 2011, 13:05 »
Further information about the British Standards requirements can be obtained at www.bsi-global.com.

At a mere cost of £65ish for the full standard.

Unless you have access to the full standard it's not possible to determine whether it mandates plastic, or metal, or just defines the characteristics of the plate.

One would assume (and we all know what that does) that Dumeister have spent the required £65 on the full standard and figured out they can use pressed metal for legal plates.

So saying their plates aren't legal is an ignorant thing to say, unless you have paids to see the full standard.

Could be worse, could have moved on to aftermarket HIDs  :grin:  :lipsrsealed:

Or mis-use of front foglights.

if there illegal surely an m.o.t tester wouldnt pass a car with them on  :undecided:

No MOT is quite different to construction and use legislation. 

You can get a car with spikes welded on the bumper through an MOT provided the spikes are not there due to damage or corrosion.

Construction and use would see you pulled over by the first copper you met driving away from the MOT station as huge spikes on your bumper are clearly dangerous!

An MOT is largely a list of boxes to be ticked.  If what you have is outside the scope of the boxes the tester won't cover it.
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