RIP Sir Jimmy Saville

[VR6_Wherry]

i even had an old friend on fb posting up stuff about how her sister was lucky to get away from JS... because who knows what he would have done to her.

... I mean get fcuking real!!! she was a thick beeatch at school and remains one now.

Again... the man remains innocent until proven guilty

Agree with that, what i was trying to say is the circumstances then and now are completely different as Jonathan has pointed out. It makes sense why these people would come now, after his death. We may never know, but if it is true i wish all the victims the best in life in moving forward. If not, they should be ashamed of themselves.

People need to remember that the biggest fear is not being believed, back then there was a 99% chance you wouldn't be believed.

I was only trying to annoy people with my comment on him acting and looking like one.

[The Mighty Elvi]

Paul Gambaccini:


"He alleged that at one point Saville was about to be exposed by a tabloid newspaper, but quickly arranged an interview with a rival tabloid which had the effect of stopping the negative article.

Gambaccini went on: “On another occasion, and this cuts to the chase of the whole matter, he was called and he said 'well you could run that story, but if you do there goes the funds that come in to Stoke Mandeville - do you want to be responsible for the drying up of the charity donations'. And they backed down."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/paul-gambaccini-claims-sir-jimmy-savile-used-charity-work-to-prevent-sexual-abuse-of-schoolchildren-being-exposed-8191761.html

And so it begins....

[R32UK]

“The BBC has conducted extensive searches of its files to establish whether there is any record of misconduct or allegations of misconduct by Sir Jimmy Savile during his time at the BBC. No such evidence has been found,” it said in a statement.

”We have been very clear from the start that the piece was not broadcast because the story we were pursuing could not be substantiated. To say otherwise is false and very damaging to the BBC and individuals. The notion that internal pressure was applied appears to be a malicious rumour.“


  who to believe

[Seanl]

Because obviously the BBC would keep detailed records and accounts on file of them covering up something like that wouldn't they. 

[Deano2711]

Sorry Wherry but for once I strongly disagree with you. How anyone can say such things about a dead person when they have had 40 years is a disgrace. The victims and there families need to move on.....what about Jimmys family and friends ?? The bloke cannot defend himself against allegations from women with absolutlely no proof. The police questioned Jimmy five years ago and found  no evidence and let him go. If these womem wanted him to pay how come not one of them came forward when the police were investigatong and the guy was around to defend himself.

I for one respect the dead and their reputation whether its good or bad. R.I.P Sir Jimmy.

[Mitching]

I don't think people understand that with traumatic events such as rape/molestation etc, the victims can suppress the experience or blame themselves, without telling anyone for years and years.
They may not have spoken out due to fear of not being believed, yet when one person speaks out they can see they weren't the only ones to have been victimised, meaning more and more people come forward.

[Deano2711]

Whats changed now then except he is dead and cant put his story across. As I said how come not one of these women came forward 5 years ago when the Police had a look at the case. At least then Jimmy was alive to answer the questions put to him. I understand it must be hard for any victim but why would you wait for the guy to die before speaking out and why do they believe people will believe them now ??  I'll tell you its because Jimmy cant defend himself and people like Esther need to learn respect!!!!! If she knew then she should have said something or if as I believe  she knows nowt then she should shut up !!!!!

[R32UK]

Because obviously the BBC would keep detailed records and accounts on file of them covering up something like that wouldn't they. 

if there was an investigation then they would most likely of had to keep a record of accounts

[Sam]

Victims of crimes such as this often turn to violence, substance abuse, self mutilation and even suicide without anyone else knowing what's happened. Doesn't this tell you something about the trauma involved?

I have avoided this thread (apart from the shady reference) as I know little about the bloke, he is well before my time. What I can say though is that a few of the views expressed arguing his innocence are incredibly narrow minded towards the apparent victims, with the posts reasoning accusations being a hell of alot more rounded.

[Gti_Jamo]

Child abuse cannot be swept under the carpet, but always is when it comes to the mainstream. As for this coming to light after his death - thats the usual normality, Of course it cannot be proven, its impossible, but neither can it be disproved. Whats important to acknowledge is that it DOES happen in that particular industry. There is some f$@ked up people out there getting away with it today never mind decades ago.