Have you ever had a warranty claim rejected due to having a remap?

[RTechUK]

That's fair enough..... But if the mapping isn't 'stock'... as it came from the factory (or any kosher dealer 'upgrades') then any insurer is going to (try and) invalidate any claim if they were not in prior knowledge of *any* change to standard!
Or am I just being a bit paranoid?

Nope your not, insurance companies will find out in some way or another 

Could say the same about tyres. brake pads and all aftermarket parts fitted to a car?

The issues with software is its hard to tell if the car has been remapped, or the code edited. What they need to do is first read the map from the ecu of the insured car, then find a copy of the map which is an exact match to the sw number and update code, then they need to have a copy of industry standard editing software to overlay both maps and check for changes and to check the cheksumm. The the person doing the job need to be clued up with map codes so they can stand up in a professional capacity so they can confidently say the car has been tuned.

Main dealers dont have the skills or tools to compare maps. And as for as I know they are not going to use the bias opinon of a tuner.

They need to prove 100% that the ecu software has been modified before they can void a claim... But how?

Chip tuning if a different story, The just need to open the ecu and a performance chip will jump out at you..and in most cases will have Superchips sticker on ir and EVC protection PBC.

[KennyGTI]

Had a new turbo fitted to my Polo under warrenty with a remap on it and various other hardware mods. Not a question asked! 

[andyr]

@ RTechUK
Interesting information there, shed's a bit of light on the subject... Also the difference between 'chipping' and 'Re-mapping'. I think many people use the term 'chipped' to apply to a car that's had it's ECU fiddled with in any way, whether its a physical ic replacement or a re-code!

@TheDoc
Only The Doctor has a Sonic Screwdriver....... Oh Yes...... You *ARE* The Doctor! 


The next statement copied from.....
http://www.jrtuning.co.uk/index.shtml    index page

Remapping won't void your warranty!
ecu remapping

It is illegal for a vehicle manufacturer to void your warranty because work has been carried out by a third party under the EU block exemption laws. This also covers vehicle tuning and engine ecu remapping as long as the failure is not as a direct cause of the remap.

We can also say with confidence no JR tuning ecu remap has ever caused a failure and we are recognised as supplying some of the best tuning files in the world.

[RTechUK]

Remap and Chip same thing the ecu .bin files get edited and loaded back to the ecu,  The the method of how the software get to the ecu differs, a remap is like uploading picture from your iphone to your pc its all done via leads and software, chip tuning is more like having a film negitive developed, some one has to open the ecu unsolder the chip read the chip, and in most cases have to insert an new flash type chip or a PCB protection board... which leave physical evidence of the software being changed.



Remapping won't void your warranty!
ecu remapping

How do they sleep at night?....

Its the usual sales Bull crap... as bad as the quote "our maps are TUV tested"  

So what they are saying if a modern petrol turbo map which is set to run lambda 1 has the boost wound up from a remap and it melts a piston or valve the dealers have cannot void the warranty due to EU PC BS.. ?    All they have to do is fix the car then use diagnostics software to log the ecu, lambda and boost values to see its running lean, then void the warranty.   

My mate Craig owns the local Fiat dealership. He had in a punto abarth which had 27 flash counter readings and a melted engine with less then 2000 miles, and after they fitted a new engine they logged the boost and fuel only to it was far too lean which back up the 27 flash counter reading, in the end the customer ended up paying £7,000 plus £600 for an new ecu as they said the could not get the map off..    The customer said he left the car at a secure car park at Gatwick for a week, and while he was away he said the valet parkers must have the car to a local tuner.   I have mapped a few Punto Abarths now and all have been fine and still are valid for warranty at my local dealer.




But if your with JRtuning It seems they will fix the car upto the value of £2,000,000 if the dealer refuses to fix the car?  IMO if this is true its a win win situation, for for the members who is worried  about warranty should forget all the other tuners and head to JR...   (Oh look I can do sarcasm..lol)


Truth is remapping is a gamble/risk, Even with the best tuned file in the world, the car could blow up straight away after a remap but whats to say I was not about to fail on the stock map?

[Rhyso]

Truth is remapping is a gamble/risk, Even with the best tuned file in the worls the car could blow up straight away after a remap but whats to say I was not about to fail on the stock map?

^^^^ agreed 100%

Remap will highlight any inherent weaknesses within the standard components.  I've had a coilpack go on a MK5 GTI go during the post-map test run.  New ones were fitted the same day (revised ones as there's a massive recall on them) and all has been well so far.

[simonpolly]

No chance,I'm to scared to do time in VW's prison they do unnatural things to you there.

Like make you wear paper bags on your head.....

No its what they do to you while the bags on your head that worried me. look at the size of that truncheon

[The Doc]

No its what they do to you while the bags on your head that worried me. look at the size of that truncheon

Laughing out loud a lot - Nick thinks I've lost the plot 

[andyr]

How do they sleep at night?....

Thought that'd make you grin 

@ Rhyso

After the debacle on the MK IV platform re faulty coil packs I'da thought it would have been sorted by the Mk V ?! 

As an aside.... My son's 96' 1.8T 150bhp A3 started a regular misfire and we were expecting a quick cheap coil pack fix..... Turned out to be a chipped (that word get's everywhere eh!) exhaust valve in No1 which badly scored the bore.... £700 later for a new (yes, new!) bottom end from Audi and a re-built head. Fekking annoying thing at the time was the same lump from SEAT would have been £200ish cheaper, but they wouldn't supply a warranty as it wasn't 'fit for purpose', even tho the damn thing probably came off the same conveyer belt!!

[Rhyso]

@ Rhyso

After the debacle on the MK IV platform re faulty coil packs I'da thought it would have been sorted by the Mk V ?! 

Nope, fraid not!!!  There is a massive recall across the VAG group for nearly all 1.8T engines going back as far as the MK4!

I advise anyone with a 4 or 5 to get their coilpacks replaced before remapping; especially as a quick phone call could mean they are done for free

[R32UK]

@ Rhyso

After the debacle on the MK IV platform re faulty coil packs I'da thought it would have been sorted by the Mk V ?! 

Nope, fraid not!!!  There is a massive recall across the VAG group for nearly all 1.8T engines going back as far as the MK4!

I advise anyone with a 4 or 5 to get their coilpacks replaced before remapping; especially as a quick phone call could mean they are done for free

.. and still an issue on the mk6 also