Remaps - a cause of concern when you break down?

[am1w]

It's an awful feeling when a car breaks down, especially with kids in tow but also a bit annoying when quite a new car breaks down.

Let me play Devil's Advocate: It's just this sort of situation that puts me off re-mapping, especially if you can't remove it at will and the car might be towed to the dealer with the new map in place.

[Neil gti]

I have done 26k now on a mapped engine, no problems here, it just gets better as the miles clock up,

Hope you get it sorted soon mate 

[R32UK]

To add I did 30k on a remap and no probems either (well kind of  )

Hopefully just a small issue as you said 

[The Doc]

I can see your point, plus if you could remap and remove your remap at will you'd have a fair number of tell tale signs in the ECU's flash counter that's as good as writing Chipped down the sides of the car in bright day glow writing when the car is plugged into a diagnostics machine or VCDS.....

Plus on your car you'd already struggle to get warranty claims on the electrical side due to the non-OEM mods you've already made - this is very concerning indeed.

Any good indi tuning company would advise you on your best course of action if engine failure occurs when performing the remap.....

[am1w]

@ Craig: I presume your post was aimed at me. Don't know quite why but I expressed a genuine concern to Adrian with no ulterior motive.

In response: May I ask you which non-OEM electrical parts apart from the power amplifier, sub bass unit and loudspeakers have I installed in my car, please?

Quote from JKM Performance:

Will using the Bluefin handset cause my V.A.G ECU 'Flash Counter' to be increased?
On later V.A.G applications the Engine Control Unit (ECU) contains an ECU ‘Flash counter’. This is essentially a number that is stored in the ECU and it can only be viewed by specifically looking for it within the ‘advanced data’ area of the ECU - when using suitable diagnostics equipment. As its name suggests the Flash Counter is increased each time the ECU is Flash programmed.
There are various types of ECU used by V.A.G to cover all of their engine types, It is possible to reset the Flash Counter on Bosch MED9 ECU’s used on Turbo Charged Petrol applications such as the 2.0 TFSI engine. Other applications may have their flash count increased following a programming operation with the Bluefin. The message is sent from the bluefin handset to the to the ECU requesting a reset of the flash count, however it is not always successful in doing so on each ECU type.
JKM have not heard of, or are aware of, an official ‘Flash Count log’ being kept by any of the Vehicle manufactures, However we cannot rule this out. This is not something that JKM are aware of any dealership routinely ‘looking at’ during any normal servicing.

Goodnight. 

[The Doc]

Just didn't want it dragging way off topic - he's had a bad enough day - you know where it was heading.

Tops and bottoms I don't know of a single case where a warranty claim has been rejected due to a car having a remap.

Yes it is possible to reset the flash counter but not by an end user at the side of the road.

Any good indi tuning company will go through the procedure with the customer of what to do if they have a problem with their car.

"apart from the power amplifier, sub bass unit and loudspeakers have I installed in my car"

That's quite a bit you know.....

[Exonian]

Any good indi tuning company would advise you on your best course of action if engine failure occurs when performing the remap.....

Yeah, unclip high pressure fuel line and aim at red hot exhaust manifold, run like f**k and hope the ECU gets toasted in the blaze!!





Disclaimer: That was an attempt at humour ... don't try it at home kids.

[The Doc]

Any good indi tuning company would advise you on your best course of action if engine failure occurs when performing the remap.....

Yeah, unclip high pressure fuel line and aim at red hot exhaust manifold, run like f**k and hope the ECU gets toasted in the blaze!!





Disclaimer: That was an attempt at humour ... don't try it at home kids.

I see you've used us before 

[Spin 150pd]

Any good indi tuning company would advise you on your best course of action if engine failure occurs when performing the remap.....

Yeah, unclip high pressure fuel line and aim at red hot exhaust manifold, run like f**k and hope the ECU gets toasted in the blaze!!





Disclaimer: That was an attempt at humour ... don't try it at home kids.

I see you've used us before 

To date I've had numerous cars remapped and have had no issues that caused a breakdown,  i have taken all of them into main delaers for servicing and never had anything mentioned,  this has been VW, Audi and BMW.

I did once have an issue with a Bluefin unit that when trying to switch back to stock (for no reason other than I was messing about on my driveway) it 'killed' the car which would not turn over - this turned out to be a school boy error on Superchips behalf who had uploaded the incorrect originl map onto the unit from someone elses car,  Superchips were not contactable as it was the weekend but I called out a local independant who happens to be a Revo delaer and he used Revo recovery software to re-install a standard map at a cost of £50.

It was at this point I switched allegance and had Revo installed but to be fair to SC this was my first issue over 6 cars they mapped for me.

My point is that I don't belive that delaers go looking for remap evidence or are particularly bothered so long as they can claim back the costs for warranty work, if you use your head,  any fault encountered that is obviously linked to the remap just visit an indepnedant for this particular query.

I actually think its a crime not to have at least a stage 1 and enjoy the car how it should have left the factory,  they drive so much better and mpg is definetly improved.

[R32UK]

My point is that I don't belive that delaers go looking for remap evidence or are particularly bothered so long as they can claim back the costs for warranty work, if you use your head,  any fault encountered that is obviously linked to the remap just visit an indepnedant for this particular query.

I actually think its a crime not to have at least a stage 1 and enjoy the car how it should have left the factory,  they drive so much better and mpg is definetly improved.

I think this is a very good point... Dealers are getting more work and getting paid for carrying out the work.

Mine went in for a new engine and not a single question was asked, they were happy to just get on with the work. I would imagine the only issue would be if VW wanted more details on the actual car itself to dig a little deeper.