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Offline The Doc

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Re: Who's running a Bluefinned mk6?
« Reply #70 on: 11 December 2011, 08:13 »
It's all down to person preference and experience when all is said and done.

Jim doesn't know which to try so why not try the cheapest, easiest option first?

If you inform SC when your uploading that you have DSG they will do any possible modifications required in the software.

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Re: Who's running a Bluefinned mk6?
« Reply #71 on: 13 December 2011, 05:44 »
I had the use of a forum member's Bluefinned GTI on Monday for a 100-ish mile round trip.
When I'd first planned the trip I was expecting cold and crisp weather and fairly empty roads as it was an evening run.
Life never pans out how you expect and instead I was greeted with storm force winds, torrential rain, made worse by the spray from lorries, and the trip was moved to an earlier time so I also had traffic to contend with on the first leg.
Now, obviously being a sensible Golf driver I wasn't going to be doing anything above the legal speed limit, and much of the trip was done at much less than that thanks to the weather. Again, the weather put paid to any quick cornering or quick anything really. So this certainly isn't going to be a performance and willy waving test.

But I'll say one thing, when you drive a car in the worst conditions it quickly shows up any shortcomings. And apart from one or two visibility issues the GTI doesn't have any shortcomings. It really is a polished car. No doubt an R would have been even better in the conditions, but was by no means anywhere near necessary thanks to the basic competence of the GTI.
The only even slightly dodgy moments were caused by aquaplaning and you can't blame the car for that. Everything else was catered for in absolute comfort and with great confidence. Gushing praise really which is unusual for me I know, so I'll apologise for that right away...  :laugh:

So, what of the Bluefin part of the experience? Well, despite all that I've said above about going slowly and sensibly, the Bluefin was really quite handy. Steep dual carriageway hills were made to feel like I was driving on flat Fenland roads thanks to the extra torque. The extra boost comes on strongly but not viciously enabling the car to easily overtake lorries spraying water everywhere on uphill sections to clear the car and passengers away from danger without resorting to heavy throttle use or high revs, thus keeping progress smooth.
Accelerating out of roundabouts and away from traffic lights was brisk enough for the conditions and almost no loss of traction was experienced despite the very, very wet conditions.
So, the conditions show that the Bluefinned car has plenty enough torque for brisk progress without having too much torque that would occasionally hinder it.

A previous mk6 I had acquaintance with was fitted with REVO stage 1 software. It was excellent. And for a road car so is the Bluefin I reckon from this limited test.
Obviously if I wanted to use the car for track work then stage 2 REVO would probably give the best results, but that requires hardware additions that a) push up the cost and b) throw off the GTI balance meaning further upgrades would be needed such as brakes and suspension mods to go with the considerable added power to bring the thing back on an even keel. In which case you'd probably be a lot better off buying a K04 car in the first place.
As a sorted road car, the Bluefin GTI does what it needs to do very well, with the option to add a little more in the future.
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Re: Who's running a Bluefinned mk6?
« Reply #72 on: 15 December 2011, 15:14 »
I have just taken a look at the Dyno graph for the bluefin  before and after, is 250hp really typical of a standard GTI ? i cant really see the point of spending £330 plus insurance for an extra 20hp ?  :undecided:

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Re: Who's running a Bluefinned mk6?
« Reply #73 on: 15 December 2011, 15:22 »
I have just taken a look at the Dyno graph for the bluefin  before and after, is 250hp really typical of a standard GTI ? i cant really see the point of spending £330 plus insurance for an extra 20hp ?  :undecided:



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I take it you haven't had a car mapped before?
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Re: Who's running a Bluefinned mk6?
« Reply #74 on: 15 December 2011, 15:40 »
Standard GTI is 211bhp isn't it  :huh:  so a 39bhp gain

Short version is it's totally worth it  :cool:

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Re: Who's running a Bluefinned mk6?
« Reply #75 on: 15 December 2011, 16:21 »
the mk6 gti always produces more than 210bhp. VW under sell it.


evo tested one at about 230bhp and a megane 250 at about 280bhp and the focus RS at 'just' 280 (should be 300)





anyway 20-30 bhp thru the rev range and the way it produces the power and the added response, engine note and flexibility make the £400 well worth it IMO.



on a NA car i wouldn't bother with a remap so much but on a turbo car they make a HUGE difference for the £££
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Re: Who's running a Bluefinned mk6?
« Reply #76 on: 15 December 2011, 16:24 »
on a NA car i wouldn't bother with a remap so much but on a turbo car they make a HUGE difference for the £££

You'd be surprised at the difference it makes to an NA car  :wink:  IMO it's never about the peak gains; I much prefer AVERAGE gains across the RPM range :afro:

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Re: Who's running a Bluefinned mk6?
« Reply #77 on: 15 December 2011, 16:36 »
yeah i guess so. on my clio gains were very minimal (about 6 bhp or so maybe 12bhp with an exhaust and sport cat). the lads with 197/200 RS with remaps do say they make a difference but in bang for bucks terms on a turbo car  you get more for your money IMO
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Re: Who's running a Bluefinned mk6?
« Reply #78 on: 15 December 2011, 16:55 »
yeah i guess so. on my clio gains were very minimal (about 6 bhp or so maybe 12bhp with an exhaust and sport cat). the lads with 197/200 RS with remaps do say they make a difference but in bang for bucks terms on a turbo car  you get more for your money IMO

Did you RR the Clio before and after??

That you do  :smiley:

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Re: Who's running a Bluefinned mk6?
« Reply #79 on: 15 December 2011, 16:55 »
Mine made 250 ish on "REVO" standard map but that was with all the induction, exhaust and FMIC.

But my god yeah a remap is worth it, whatever one you go for, totally transforms the car! Great fun!

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