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Offline shaolindan

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Engine Stutter, Stall, Oil Light, Won't Start....
« on: 23 October 2011, 16:51 »
Hi there folks,

My '90 8v digifant is mainly driven by my wife. So I will describe what she has told me over the last couple of weeks and then say what I have experienced today. She has complained about it - on the 6 mile commute to work 'just losing power' then stalling (normally about 5 miles in). Previously we had had a similar thing, which turned out to be the rubber grommet of the breather being broken; so she would pop the hood fiddle with the breather and restart. However I have examined the breather and it is fine, so it would appear that isn't the cause.

Now the oil light has started flashing occasionally, as has the temp light. So today I checked the coolant level (a little under the min) and topped it up. I checked the oil and that was spot on (about two thirds of the way up the hatched part). So we took it for a spin. It started fine (little rattle that goes after it warms up, I believe that is normal) about half a mile down the road it coughed/spluttered/hiccuped - lost power and jumped for 2 seconds; perhaps kangaroo petrol? But after that it seemed fine. Because of the hiccup we went to an Esso station (on the first bar of fuel) and put 35 litres (50 quid thanks) of 97 octane esso supreme in. Again driving round the block she felt fine, in fact with a little more grunt. On one road went through the gears going to about 5.5k rpm and it felt great. Then in stop start London traffic - according to the MFA the oil temp didn't get higher than 100 degrees. The coolant didn't go past half way.

An hour later, the wife jumps in to drive to work and it won't start. Turn the ignition and the battery, temp and oil light flash, after a couple of seconds the temp light goes out but the battery and oil light stay on. (New battery - Silver grade Bosch from Halfords 2 months ago). When you go to start - with or without gas, it starts, low revs (gas pedal has no effect) and then stalls. Stays on a maximum of 3 seconds.

I'm sure I've left important bits out, but that's why I'm here. Any ideas?
Is it ISV, spark plugs, fuel filter, I dunno? It has 100K on the clock, but had a rebuild with new tappets and springs as well as a polish at 85k (3 years ago). Booked for a service and MOT on Wednesday, be nice to get it there without a tow.

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Re: Engine Stutter, Stall, Oil Light, Won't Start....
« Reply #1 on: 23 October 2011, 19:47 »
Sounds like a number of issues...

Could be Blue temp sender, and in need of a service - Plugs, rotar & Maybe leads & Cap etc...

and maybe the alternator is not charging properly, check the power output at the battery on tick over should be about 13-14.5 Volt

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Re: Engine Stutter, Stall, Oil Light, Won't Start....
« Reply #2 on: 23 October 2011, 20:17 »
Woman driver?

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Re: Engine Stutter, Stall, Oil Light, Won't Start....
« Reply #3 on: 24 October 2011, 00:42 »
Apie, I showed my lovely wife your response. And she said "f**k you, you come and pick me up when I have to get the night bus home from work"  :tongue:

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Re: Engine Stutter, Stall, Oil Light, Won't Start....
« Reply #4 on: 24 October 2011, 12:47 »
Bit of  a trek from the Isle of man sadly

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Re: Engine Stutter, Stall, Oil Light, Won't Start....
« Reply #5 on: 25 October 2011, 11:42 »
Pop the cover of the dash where the fuses & relays are and leave it off, listen out for a relay clicking when it stutters, if that happens it could be the ECU relay (number 32) I had a similar issue, as it stutters and cuts out the lights come on and stay on for a few seconds after it kicks back in again. the 'just loosing power' could be that the engine has just shut down, does the rev counter drop to 0 when it happens?

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Re: Engine Stutter, Stall, Oil Light, Won't Start....
« Reply #6 on: 25 October 2011, 19:12 »
Righto. Ordered a 32 and a 72 relay from X4MGS. Hopefully that will fix it and the rear wiper...

I'll let you know. I've had to cancel the service and MOT till I get this sussed.

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Re: Engine Stutter, Stall, Oil Light, Won't Start....
« Reply #7 on: 25 October 2011, 19:28 »
Righto. Ordered a 32 and a 72 relay from X4MGS. Hopefully that will fix it and the rear wiper...

I'll let you know. I've had to cancel the service and MOT till I get this sussed.

Rear wiper could be a part broken wire between the tailgate and car...

If the relay don't fix it the you know its the wires & You'll have a spare relay...

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Re: Engine Stutter, Stall, Oil Light, Won't Start....
« Reply #8 on: 14 November 2011, 15:27 »
The wiper relay (72) didn't help. So I'll 'fix' the wire on the weekend.  :huh:

The ECU fuel pump relay (32) didn't help either. So upon further inspection the 9 month old battery is not retaining much charge and somehow the air mix screw was all the way in. I hadn't screwed it in so don't know how that happened - but once that was adjusted and emissions & mix tested she's golden!

I was thinking about getting a better set of leads - are there any at vwheritage people would recommend?


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Re: Engine Stutter, Stall, Oil Light, Won't Start....
« Reply #9 on: 14 November 2011, 18:01 »
just fixed mine with simular prob was the mad unit itselt :) so you might find changing it will help