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Offline Yohan

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Fabia vRS - ABS/Electrical Problems
« on: 22 October 2011, 19:15 »
Evening,

Took my Fabia out for a spin today as it hadn't been used for the past week and it seems to have developed a few problems whilst sitting around doing nothing.

Symptoms

    First turned it on and a warning light with steering wheels and ! showed up
    When driving it the hand brake light, ABS light, and TCS light, randomly flash up and the speedo drops to 0mph before bouncing back up to whatever speed I'm travelling.
    Steering wheel feels really light when on the move i.e. 60mph and really heavy when moving at slow speeds, seems more noticable when turning right.

Video

Took a video of what it does, apologies for the crap quality but it's all I had with me at the time. The fault happens near the end of the video.



Vag-Com Log

Ross-Tech wiki wasn't too helpful this time.

Saturday,22,October,2011,18:51:56:62534
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.5
Data version: 20110930

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Chassis Type: 6Y - Skoda Fabia I
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 37 44 46 55 56 76
 
VIN:    Mileage: 162920km/101233miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-019-ASZ.lbl
   Part No: 038 906 019 NF
   Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG  5839
   Coding: 00102
   Shop #: WSC 13765
   VCID: 68DA2CC922E8
   TMBWU46Y954201611     SKZ7Z0D2629352

1 Fault Found:
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from ABS Controller
            P1649 - 35-10 -  -  - Intermittent
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 6Q0-907-37x-ASR.lbl
   Part No SW: 6Q0 907 379 AB    HW: 6Q0 907 379 AB
   Component: MABS 8.0 front  H03 0001
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0000008
   Shop #: WSC 13765 000 00000
   VCID: 7DF46D9D5D6A

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 31
                    Mileage: 162907 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 6Q0-820-045.lbl
   Part No: 6Y0 820 045
   Component: Klimaanlage        X0840
   VCID: F2EECEA19434

1 Fault Found:
01271 - Positioning Motor for Temperature Flap (V68)
            29-10 - Short to Ground - Intermittent

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 6Qx-937-049-C.lbl
   Part No: 6Q1 937 049 D
   Component: 0000 BN-SG.         1S34
   Coding: 25754
   Shop #: WSC 13765
   VCID: 3C72A09906F0

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 601 A
   Component: 11 AIRBAG VW51      0008
   Coding: 12593
   Shop #: WSC 13765
   VCID: 1E364A11B02C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 6Y0-920-xx0-17.lbl
   Part No: 6Y0 920 971 S
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V02
   Coding: 28401
   Shop #: WSC 13765
   VCID: 4E96FA51A04C
   TMBWU46Y954201611     SKZ7Z0D2629352

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901
   Component: 003D GATEWAY CAN    1S34
   Coding: 00014
   Shop #: WSC 13765
   VCID: F0EAC4A99A38

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.lbl
   Part No: 6Q0 423 156 AB
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V270
   Coding: 10120
   Shop #: WSC 13765
   VCID: 6FE847D50706

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 6Q0-959-433.lbl
   Part No: 6Q0 959 433 E
   Component: 2Y Komfortgerát     0002
   Coding: 00066
   Shop #: WSC 13765
   VCID: 3D74AD9D1DEA

   Part No: Steuerger
   Component: t Fahr. antwortet nicht   

   Part No: Steuerger
   Component: t Beif. antwortet nicht   

No fault code found.

End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks in advance [:)]

Yohan

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Re: Fabia vRS - ABS/Electrical Problems
« Reply #1 on: 23 October 2011, 12:56 »
Right only managed to clean the 3 earths on the strut and check the ECU plugs/contacts before rain put an end to any further investigation.

The fuses on the battery are all ok.

Cleared all codes with vag-com and I've got a new one now in the engine module.

Sunday,23,October,2011,12:47:20:62534
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.5
Data version: 20110930

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Chassis Type: 6Y - Skoda Fabia I
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 37 44 46 55 56 76

VIN: Mileage: 162930km/101240miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-019-ASZ.lbl
Part No: 038 906 019 NF
Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG 5839
Coding: 00102
Shop #: WSC 13765
VCID: 68DA2CC922E8
TMBWU46Y954201611 SKZ7Z0D2629352

2 Faults Found:
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from ABS Controller
P1649 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
18061 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller
P1653 - 35-00 - -
Readiness: 1 1 1 1 1

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 6Q0-907-37x-ASR.lbl
Part No SW: 6Q0 907 379 AB HW: 6Q0 907 379 AB
Component: MABS 8.0 front H03 0001
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0000008
Shop #: WSC 13765 000 00000
VCID: 7DF46D9D5D6A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 6Q0-820-045.lbl
Part No: 6Y0 820 045
Component: Klimaanlage X0840
VCID: F2EECEA19434

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 6Qx-937-049-C.lbl
Part No: 6Q1 937 049 D
Component: 0000 BN-SG. 1S34
Coding: 25754
Shop #: WSC 13765
VCID: 3C72A09906F0

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 601 A
Component: 11 AIRBAG VW51 0008
Coding: 12593
Shop #: WSC 13765
VCID: 1E364A11B02C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 6Y0-920-xx0-17.lbl
Part No: 6Y0 920 971 S
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V02
Coding: 28401
Shop #: WSC 13765
VCID: 4E96FA51A04C
TMBWU46Y954201611 SKZ7Z0D2629352

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: 003D GATEWAY CAN 1S34
Coding: 00014
Shop #: WSC 13765
VCID: F0EAC4A99A38

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 423 156 AB
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V270
Coding: 10120
Shop #: WSC 13765
VCID: 6FE847D50706

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 6Q0-959-433.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 959 433 E
Component: 2Y Komfortgerát 0002
Coding: 00066
Shop #: WSC 13765
VCID: 3D74AD9D1DEA

Part No: Steuerger
Component: t Fahr. antwortet nicht

Part No: Steuerger
Component: t Beif. antwortet nicht

No fault code found.

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Should I start pricing up ABS controllers?

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Re: Fabia vRS - ABS/Electrical Problems
« Reply #2 on: 23 October 2011, 13:16 »
Have you checked the fuse for the ABS? Can you communicate with the controller at all?

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Re: Fabia vRS - ABS/Electrical Problems
« Reply #3 on: 23 October 2011, 13:29 »
Assuming there is just the fuse on the battery then yeah they are all ok.

I can communicate with it through vag-com and clear faults on it or go to measuring blocks. Just seems to happen every few seconds when driving.

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Re: Fabia vRS - ABS/Electrical Problems
« Reply #4 on: 23 October 2011, 13:44 »
Assuming there is just the fuse on the battery then yeah they are all ok.

I can communicate with it through vag-com and clear faults on it or go to measuring blocks. Just seems to happen every few seconds when driving.

Think there is one under the dashboard too but if that was shot you wouldn't be able to communicate with the controller

How far did you drive the car as the system is self checking.  Perhaps the fact its sat still for so long it needs to be driven to get the voltage back up in the battery and for the system to be happy  :undecided:

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Re: Fabia vRS - ABS/Electrical Problems
« Reply #5 on: 24 October 2011, 08:40 »
Well what ever the fault is, it's permanent now. Speedo didn't work from the word go this morning and also when I turn corners or brake harshly the fuel gauge drops to zero then back up to what it actually reads (3/4 full), this also causing the low fuel light to briefly appear on the dash.

I'll take all the fuses off today and have a proper look.