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So, how many of you specced ACC and how many wished they did, and who doesn't like it or wishes they didn't have it because they don't use it? Yes, another pointless poll!!!

It's okay but could live without it
10 (25.6%)
Worst money I've spent
1 (2.6%)
Car came with it but I don't use it
1 (2.6%)
Standard suspension works fine for me
20 (51.3%)
It's okay but could live without it
7 (17.9%)

Total Members Voted: 38

Voting closed: 15 November 2011, 16:23

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Offline am1w

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Re: How many mk6'ers specced ACC or wished they did?
« Reply #30 on: 17 October 2011, 22:17 »
does anyone know if the ACC in the 'sport' mode is stiffer or sharper etc than the standard GTI suspension?

is ACC in 'normal' standard GTI setting and 'sport' stiffer still?

Yes, that's correct.
Sport is almost too stiff for the crappy roads - too stiff as in you spend too much time fighting tha car and end up slower...but on the right road, the Sport setting makes the steering more responsive too, and brings the tail into play far more readily.

Comfort is epic in the wet for making quick progress with less understeer...and superb on potholed city streets or in icy conditions.

Normally, Dynamic is very similar to the standard steel dampers...

People say GTI is spot on Standard...it's good, but not great, when coming from a car with truly superb damping control - it's a compromise - like most cars...however, ACC gives you 3 modes on compromise which makes it 3 times less compromised in my book.
I only wish I could have the Sport steering, in all modes.

Yes, Sport steering in Comfort and Normal modes would be ace.
Comfort mode + Sport steering = Heaven.
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Re: How many mk6'ers specced ACC or wished they did?
« Reply #31 on: 18 October 2011, 07:41 »
Do they not share the exact same suspension set up? and virtually exactly the same weight?
No the spring and damper rates are different and the EA888 engine is much lighter than the older unit.
Im sure i remember reading a quote from Asker from the designer about this too with the % rate difference.
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Re: How many mk6'ers specced ACC or wished they did?
« Reply #32 on: 18 October 2011, 10:14 »
Do they not share the exact same suspension set up? and virtually exactly the same weight?
No the spring and damper rates are different and the EA888 engine is much lighter than the older unit.
Im sure i remember reading a quote from Asker from the designer about this too with the % rate difference.

ahh yes of course the different engine would have made a difference. What is the weight difference between the mk5 and mk6 ???

I am pretty sure I read somewhere that the mk6 is slightly heavier  :undecided:

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Re: How many mk6'ers specced ACC or wished they did?
« Reply #33 on: 18 October 2011, 10:28 »
Rather have DSG over ACC any-day, Its okay but just drive round in it comfort mode all the time which defeats the object to me, would I spec it over xenons no I dont think so!! :cool:

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Re: How many mk6'ers specced ACC or wished they did?
« Reply #34 on: 18 October 2011, 11:07 »
Rather have DSG over ACC any-day, Its okay but just drive round in it comfort mode all the time which defeats the object to me, would I spec it over xenons no I dont think so!! :cool:

Oh no...
ACC adds to the involvement...DSG takes it away.  :tongue:
I wouldn't want to be without Xenons OR ACC.
 

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Re: How many mk6'ers specced ACC or wished they did?
« Reply #35 on: 18 October 2011, 12:26 »
I have ACC on my Scirocco and I feel it makes a big difference. Most of the time I keep it in 'Sport' only using 'Comfort' or 'Normal' on long motorway journeys.

I will definately be spec'ing ACC on the Golf GTi I'm planning to buy
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Re: How many mk6'ers specced ACC or wished they did?
« Reply #36 on: 18 October 2011, 13:06 »
ACC is amazing and makes the car more involving with its 3 different suspension modes and different steering responses.

Xenons are great to have, they look pretty and are used mainly at nighttime whereas ACC is useful/used day and night, i.e. whenever the car is driven!

As far as DSG is concerned, I found it most uninvolving and the downchanges were weird. It was not for me. ETTO and all that bull so that delicate feelings are kept unhurt.
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Re: How many mk6'ers specced ACC or wished they did?
« Reply #37 on: 20 October 2011, 05:49 »
Okay, the poll was started as a bit of fun to follow on from the DSG one as I wanted to see whether this would also end up as WWIII or whether we could actually learn something about the day to day benefits of the system.

Some opinions of mine now; The price of ACC isn't far off that of a top notch aftermarket suspension kit. As a potential downside the ACC doesn't lower the car in Sport mode but it does come direct from the production line with the car and thus carries the full factory warranty.

I think I'd prefer it if it perhaps came in two modes: Comfort which is self explanatory, and Dynamic which would be a combination of Normal and Sport using the best of both features in that it monitored and adapted along with driving style but gave the sharper steering and throttle response all the time. With just two modes you'd spend less time fiddling with it to make sure you were in the optimum setting and thus could concentrate 100% on what's going on around you.

As a side note, I had Koni FSDs on my previous mk5 GTI. They supposedly gave a softish ride on rough roads and firmed up under load. They improved the comfort of my car dramatically BUT the car did tend to bounce off the bumpstops a bit when pressing on a bit on B roads.
For a couple of hundred quid extra ACC has the FSDs licked, as a retro fit I'd guess ACC would be prohibitively expensive.
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Re: How many mk6'ers specced ACC or wished they did?
« Reply #38 on: 19 November 2011, 07:45 »
Just a quick note to add to this post.

Now that I've driven both the GTI on 18" wheels and GTD on 17" wheels my vote I'd divided.....

Basically the GTD is in normal mode 90% of the time and the ride is fine but the GTI is in comfort mode all the time as the normal is a little too hard for day to day driving but put the gtd into comfort mode and it feels very wafty / floaty indeed.

Summary:

Comfort

Gtd = Wafty / GTI = just right

Normal

Gtd = just right /  GTI = a little firm

Sport

GTD & GTI too much and frankly makes the handling too bouncy on at the edge of the cars handling to be of any use IMHO plus point is that the steering feel improves a lot.


Summary for me is that I'd never pay for it again on a GTD with 17" wheels and I'd never opt for the 18s on a GTD for a number of reasons, but on a GTI it would be rude not to have the 18" wheels hence the ACC would be a must for me.

I wish I could fit it to Mrs Docs Tiguan R-line though :grin:



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Re: How many mk6'ers specced ACC or wished they did?
« Reply #39 on: 19 November 2011, 08:10 »
glad i didnt have the option, all sounds abit 50/50 TO me