help fitting front fog lights...

[takethefifth]

I am hoping someone can clarify a couple of things for me - my bumpers (gsf big bumper kit) are in for spraying at the mo and when they come back i want to fit my front fogs.

From searching i can see that the wiring should already be in place (1988 Gti 8v small bumper) but i need a connector/extendor to fit between the fogs and the connector coming off the loom behind the headlights. My questions are;

1. Anyone know where i can get this connector from? Is it just a standard VAG item?
2. Do i really need to support my engine when removing the front bumper as the haynes suggests?

And also, anyone done this before and can offer any tips! I am an amateur car DIY'er and am hoping i can do this myself. Got lamps and brackets, just need the wires.

My thanks! John.

[rubjonny]

The plug you're looking for is under the expansion tank.  The ones behind the headlamps are for the electronig headlamp adjuster motors, a luxury you don't often see

There is conflicting information out there on wheter you support the engine or not, from what I've gathered:
When you undo the correct bumper mounting bolts you don't need to support the engine, but DON'T DRIVE IT like that as 2 of the bumper bolts also hold the cross member.  If I were you I would still get a jack under there anyway, just in case.  Plus you might find you need to lift the engine slightly to get the bolt holes lined up

[Dizzie]

I've never supported my engine unless I'm changing the mounts.
there are 3 bolts on eachside. you only need to remove the 2 side ones of those 3, which are in a line. the last middle one holds the subframe in. I wouldn't advise driving the car without all 3 in there both sides.

[rubjonny]

Thanks for the clarification on the bolts Dizzie
Definitely don't drive it without all the bolts back in, unless you want to introduce your engine to the tarmac

[takethefifth]

Cheers guys! At least i know where i am going with this one now!

Hardest thing to get is the loom from the fogs to the connector, vw have discontinued it and gsf and other can't help.  A breaker somewhere near wales reckons he can get one off a big bumper gti he has just got in, going to let me know tomorrow - fingers crossed!

Thanks. J.

[takethefifth]

Thought i may as well use this thread again to save writing a new one...

Is it just me or is there no reference to Big bumpers and front fog light fitting in either the haynes or the bentley manuals? 

Got everything i need to put the front fogs in but before i start taking things apart i like to have a rough idea of what i am about to do....
Can anyone point me in the right direction for a diagram of how the front fog lights and brackets fit in? 

Or is it really that simple that once the bumpers off i can just go - ah ha, thats what to do....   

[dubslug]

once the bumper is off mate you will see where the fog light bracket sits, on the main bumper bar, u will see two holes, all u do is line the fog bracket up to these and do them up, u will see wot i mean once the bumper is off.
good luck

[takethefifth]

Cheers mate! Bit of confirmation is always nice before i start taking things apart! Will arm myself with a selection of M8/M10 bolts and get to work! 

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