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Offline Jay

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #50 on: 29 September 2011, 13:33 »
look at the key security company websites at their reports on Android, each release exploses another flaw (Gingerbread exposed a keylogging flaw that was sinple to exploit) this coupled with an totally open and uncontrolled marketplace just makes it a minefield

As does EVERY OS release, by ANY company. Look at Lion :lipsrsealed: You not seen the bugs each iOS release brings?  :huh: The Market place does need more control, but it's Google's ethos of being open that's keeping the way it is, thus the Amazon Marketplace and carrier Market's/stores where there is more control. But at the same time each app you install will tell you what permissions it needs, if it's a simple game and wants access to your Phone calls, record calls, place calls, Text messages etc don't install it, 'tis not hard. If the app has a new version and you upgrade it will tell you if the permissions have changed, even for the Apps you've set to autoupdate.

Also one big issue is that each manufacturer adds their own spin to each release and on top of that each carrier adds their own personal requirements... so when you say I have Android 2.3.4 on a Samsung device from Orange.. this wont be the same as 2.3.4 on an HTC from Vodafone - each version will use a different kernal and other aspects will be different - let me give another example, the native email client and PIM services on a 2.3.3 Galaxy tab from Vodafone UK wont connect to ActiveSync 2010 (there is a know bug with SSL) but take the same tab from AT&T in the US and it will work fine...

That's a Samsung issue and should have been addressed before releasing the effected devices, it also effects the SGS2 - 2010 has been around long enough now. My old HTC works fine with Exchange 2010, prompts me to accept the permissions the server needs to control my phone and off I go.

This is where is have to concede Apple have the upper hand.. complete control over OS and HW means that 4.2 from one carrier = 4.2 from anther carrier globally no discussion

This complete inconsistancy is the reason why banks will stay away from Android for sometime yet.. there are too many unknowns

It's also their limitation as  they only release 1 iphone and 1 ipad a year (currently), variety and choice is what makes Android and WP7 good.

Banks are staying away from Android because of the FUD being spread, what's wrong with an App that's effectively an interface to the webpage (which they already provide if you do to the mobile banking website for Lloyds and Barclays), sending data over SSL/TLS (using the versions that are not effected by the recently possible security issue with those protocols). Plenty of other apps function that way without any security issues. It's mostly FUD being spread by those who do not know what they are talking about is the issue.

Even if that were the case it still took the banks years to react to the iPhone and come out with Apps.

Just had a look and it appears Lloyds and Barclays don't even have an iPhone/iPad app, so even if I did have one of them fruity tooty tings I couldn't 'micro manage' my money anyway without using the mobile banking website :rolleyes:

How many UK banks actually have an iphone/ipad app? Natwest and... ?  :undecided: I don't have itunes so can't check even if I wanted too.
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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #51 on: 29 September 2011, 14:21 »
As far as i know they are readying apps for IOS5. You wont see many apps released until after 4th october now due to the costs and time of updating it to be compatible for a new IOS.

Im not saying Apple is perfect, far from it, if android releases a tablet or phone that works as well, with a touchscreen as good (my biggest factor in buying a tablet/phone) and is well made/feels nice to use i will move. Until then i dont need quad core, i dont need a 10MP camera and i dont need a massive screen.

Bare in mind i wouldnt have an iPhone if i couldnt jailbreak it as well.


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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #52 on: 29 September 2011, 14:37 »
Jay. Stop.. Please stop.

  


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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #53 on: 29 September 2011, 14:38 »
And in what phone is there more money to be made in..For the company selling and the businesses investing in development....

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #54 on: 29 September 2011, 14:44 »
Jay. Stop.. Please stop.



Why? having an interesting discussion rather than the 'apple is sh!t', followed by 'android is sh!t' retort for a change.

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #55 on: 29 September 2011, 15:14 »
Jay. Stop.. Please stop.



Why? having an interesting discussion rather than the 'apple is sh!t', followed by 'android is sh!t' retort for a change.

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Adam, considering there were over 600,000 android activations every DAY by the end of July and over 1 million per day by the end of 2011 I'd say Android has the potential to have a larger monetary value than any other OS out there. Google is making billions off the in app adverts alone! Never mind all the apps that are purchased through the market, licensed by OEM's or other in app advertisement companies raking it in along with the App devs.

The only measurement usually quoted is the amount of money made via Marketplace/App Store purchases and the advertising money is forgot about because it's harder to calculate.

Jules, look at the Amazon Kindle Fire. Seems nice, cheap and runs Android.

Personally I was going to get an Android tablet but I'm not convinced after having had a Moto Xoom in my hands for a weekend and had extensive use of it over the last month, it's too complex and I think a polished Android 2.x would be better suited to tablets, hence the lack of Android 3.x apps.

I think I'll wait and see what Icecream Sandwich brings to the party, and yes that's the code name for the next Android release :grin: Otherwise it'll be Win8 for me.
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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #56 on: 29 September 2011, 15:27 »
Windows mango is brilliant, try and have a go if you can.

If someone cracks the kindle fire and puts a decent version of android on there i would sod my iPad off for one! Obviously i would need to have a play as the touchscreen could be awful (from videos it looks like there is lag  :sick: )

Had a play with Sonys offering. It works well if you use it slowly, start trying to do something fast (as simple as page swiping) and it has a fit! Awful for the price!

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #57 on: 29 September 2011, 15:33 »
What was a more exciting release in mobile phone technology:

1) Iphone
2) Android
3) Nokia 3210 (Snake!)

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #58 on: 29 September 2011, 15:36 »
What was a more exciting release in mobile phone technology:

1) Iphone
2) Android
3) Nokia 3210 (Snake!)

3 everytime!

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #59 on: 29 September 2011, 15:43 »
What was a more exciting release in mobile phone technology:

1) Iphone
2) Android
3) Nokia 3210 (Snake!)

3 everytime!

Every new phone that comes out these days is brilliant but expected.

I remember when the 3210 came out and it was a "wooowwww" how is this possible moment.