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Re: HID's in Hella projector's
« Reply #30 on: 26 September 2011, 17:44 »
Their any guides for relaying your lights? As car electrics are about 10ft over my head. And with my sub running they dim with low bass notes  :sad:

Why are they illegal bellend?

a capacitor should sort that out if you havent got one in your audio system already?

This and/or upgrade your alternator.

This is generally down to bad earthing and/or general wiring. It shouldn't happen. Clean up earthing points as a first step.

Wonder what the quality of the install is like.  :lipsrsealed:

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Re: HID's in Hella projector's
« Reply #31 on: 26 September 2011, 18:57 »
Their any guides for relaying your lights? As car electrics are about 10ft over my head. And with my sub running they dim with low bass notes  :sad:

Why are they illegal bellend?

a capacitor should sort that out if you havent got one in your audio system already?

This and/or upgrade your alternator.

This is generally down to bad earthing and/or general wiring. It shouldn't happen. Clean up earthing points as a first step.

Wonder what the quality of the install is like.  :lipsrsealed:

Cheers mate  :grin: It's not bad, earthed to where the rear lights are earthed and connected to alternator nice and tight, think it's the thickness and cable quality letting it down.
Also have a problem with the amp melting fuses but not blowing them, but thats for the audio section...

anyway
What gains do you get from relaying the lights, and what Wattage is the legal limit?
What count's as illegal, i.e colours etc

IMO HID's are going to die out fast unless your going to want to get pulled over alot

SORT YOUR CABLES OUT! What gauge cable and what wattage sub? Most likely have the glass fuses yeah? Well they're crap. Sorry. :P

A big gain. I'm not too sure on a MK4 tbh. You can find out yourself though if you like electrics by sticking a new cable on the positive direct from the battery, see how much it brightens up.

55w.

Gotta be yellow or white or the normal halogen colour. I'd imagine its an MOT/Traffic police descretion thing. If they are bright blue then just no.

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Re: HID's in Hella projector's
« Reply #32 on: 26 September 2011, 19:16 »
Their any guides for relaying your lights? As car electrics are about 10ft over my head. And with my sub running they dim with low bass notes  :sad:

Why are they illegal bellend?

a capacitor should sort that out if you havent got one in your audio system already?

This and/or upgrade your alternator.

This is generally down to bad earthing and/or general wiring. It shouldn't happen. Clean up earthing points as a first step.

Wonder what the quality of the install is like.  :lipsrsealed:

Cheers mate  :grin: It's not bad, earthed to where the rear lights are earthed and connected to alternator nice and tight, think it's the thickness and cable quality letting it down.
Also have a problem with the amp melting fuses but not blowing them, but thats for the audio section...

anyway
What gains do you get from relaying the lights, and what Wattage is the legal limit?
What count's as illegal, i.e colours etc

IMO HID's are going to die out fast unless your going to want to get pulled over alot

SORT YOUR CABLES OUT! What gauge cable and what wattage sub? Most likely have the glass fuses yeah? Well they're crap. Sorry. :P

A big gain. I'm not too sure on a MK4 tbh. You can find out yourself though if you like electrics by sticking a new cable on the positive direct from the battery, see how much it brightens up.

55w.

Gotta be yellow or white or the normal halogen colour. I'd imagine its an MOT/Traffic police descretion thing. If they are bright blue then just no.

No idea what gauge
Ermm no idea, from the pound shop
look in audio section and theirs a post by me in their with the amp info.

Ok cool
Think mine are 50watt and Legal
so why the relays and stuff?

Guide for mk4 anywhere?



Kk.

Probs 55 like standard and should be.

Because on the MK1/2/3 the lighting loom which starts at the battery and when the alternator is turning at 14.4v the loom goes all the way through the car, through fuses and the switch and the result can be like 10V when it finally reaches the bulbs. The relay kit allows a direct connection from the battery to the bulb and thus 14.4V and much brighter lights.

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Re: HID's in Hella projector's
« Reply #33 on: 28 September 2011, 20:55 »


Probs 55 like standard and should be.

Because on the MK1/2/3 the lighting loom which starts at the battery and when the alternator is turning at 14.4v the loom goes all the way through the car, through fuses and the switch and the result can be like 10V when it finally reaches the bulbs. The relay kit allows a direct connection from the battery to the bulb and thus 14.4V and much brighter lights.
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just tried the direct connection from battery, they make just make a TINY diffrence in brightness, i have RING H1 SPORTZ BLUE 80watts :undecided:
just spend £16 getting a relay holder aswell today.
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Re: HID's in Hella projector's
« Reply #34 on: 28 September 2011, 21:46 »
sorry mate i have a mk3 bud.
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Re: HID's in Hella projector's
« Reply #35 on: 28 September 2011, 21:50 »
na defo aint relayed. had car for 5yrs now and ive changed the lighting loom to.
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Re: HID's in Hella projector's
« Reply #36 on: 28 September 2011, 22:43 »
MK5 golf was the first golf to have relayed headlights, you will however have a relay for high beam.

Mk 1 and 2 and possibly 3 appreciate the upgrade more as the wiring is weaker in places in my opinion, especially with higher wattage bulbs (although illegal but not as bad as HIDs if setup correctly)

You must not fit higher wattage bulbs without a relay system in place..  I have witnessed first hand what can happen. FIRE

You won't necessary notice much difference on their own, you may notice it better when your alternator/battery are running more than just lights.  ie less or no dimming if thats an issue

Then again, mk4 being quite a modern car you may not notice anything at all with standard bulbs with relays.

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Re: HID's in Hella projector's
« Reply #37 on: 28 September 2011, 22:51 »
MK5 golf was the first golf to have relayed headlights, you will however have a relay for high beam.

Mk 1 and 2 and possibly 3 appreciate the upgrade more as the wiring is weaker in places in my opinion, especially with higher wattage bulbs (although illegal but not as bad as HIDs if setup correctly)

You must not fit higher wattage bulbs without a relay system in place..  I have witnessed first hand what can happen. FIRE

You won't necessary notice much difference on their own, you may notice it better when your alternator/battery are running more than just lights.  ie less or no dimming if thats an issue

Then again, mk4 being quite a modern car you may not notice anything at all with standard bulbs with relays.

Not necessarily a relay system but a beefy wiring upgrade.

Relays are best but make sure the wiring is up to the job.

I rewired my lights internally for bigger bulbs.

All  worked fine and dandy til it finished off the dying ignition switch. :grin:

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Re: HID's in Hella projector's
« Reply #38 on: 28 September 2011, 23:21 »
MK5 golf was the first golf to have relayed headlights, you will however have a relay for high beam.

Mk 1 and 2 and possibly 3 appreciate the upgrade more as the wiring is weaker in places in my opinion, especially with higher wattage bulbs (although illegal but not as bad as HIDs if setup correctly)

You must not fit higher wattage bulbs without a relay system in place..  I have witnessed first hand what can happen. FIRE

You won't necessary notice much difference on their own, you may notice it better when your alternator/battery are running more than just lights.  ie less or no dimming if thats an issue

Then again, mk4 being quite a modern car you may not notice anything at all with standard bulbs with relays.

Not necessarily a relay system but a beefy wiring upgrade.

Relays are best but make sure the wiring is up to the job.

I rewired my lights internally for bigger bulbs.

All  worked fine and dandy til it finished off the dying ignition switch. :grin:

Point.  I should have made it clear that when I mention a relay system I should add that this involves new wiring and not the OEM stuff. The OEM stuff can be reused as triggers.

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Re: HID's in Hella projector's
« Reply #39 on: 28 September 2011, 23:32 »
MK5 golf was the first golf to have relayed headlights, you will however have a relay for high beam.

Mk 1 and 2 and possibly 3 appreciate the upgrade more as the wiring is weaker in places in my opinion, especially with higher wattage bulbs (although illegal but not as bad as HIDs if setup correctly)

You must not fit higher wattage bulbs without a relay system in place..  I have witnessed first hand what can happen. FIRE

You won't necessary notice much difference on their own, you may notice it better when your alternator/battery are running more than just lights.  ie less or no dimming if thats an issue

Then again, mk4 being quite a modern car you may not notice anything at all with standard bulbs with relays.

Not necessarily a relay system but a beefy wiring upgrade.

Relays are best but make sure the wiring is up to the job.

I rewired my lights internally for bigger bulbs.

All  worked fine and dandy til it finished off the dying ignition switch. :grin:

Point.  I should have made it clear that when I mention a relay system I should add that this involves new wiring and not the OEM stuff. The OEM stuff can be reused as triggers.

You know dat'. ;)

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