1.8T Project

[F17BAD]

I was under the impression the ABF gearbox gearing ratios better suited the mk3 shell as well.

True, bloody perfection mate, i might add the VR6 final drive into mine when i fit a LSD (in the new year)

[danmusic24]

1.8t in a mk 3 is alot faster than in the lardy mk4  

my S3 engine (which is also on the 1.8T platform but alot higher output) in mine would blow you away. it is brutal as f**k. infact iv never driven a car as fast (had all sorts) t is just pure insanity all the way through the rev range and im loving it

when we put the S3 lump in mine and tested it, (Before my custom map) it was night and day faster than a VR6.. we absolutly abliterated one on a duel carriageway  

id say VR6 mk3 would beat a standard non mapped mk4 1.8T

thing is the 1.8T is easy to modify and even in a mk4 you can make them fast.. Iv had mk4's and im board of them where as i never get board of the mk3 i have.. its each to their own but i personally much prefer the mk3. its nice too have the pace in it that the car deserves

if VR6 is the sound you want, then you will be needing a turbo to match the pace you can get with the 1.8T

ive seen your utube video mate and must say what a outstanding job!did you put up a build thread on here? as would love to have a good read up on how you done it all...im  torn on which way to go with mine as its been sitting on my drive for the last 6months doing nothing! but think you have have answed my question! outstanding job fella

[F17BAD]

thanks mate i appreciate that 

the massive build thread is here, this is from day 1 but its a big thread
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=79957.0

conversion of engine starts here on page 91
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=79957.900


absolutely lots to read, i have a zillion more pics than what were uploaded to the forums too

[Dan_GTi8v]

Mine is just a standard AUM 150bhp, not even as powerfull as the AGU which is 180bhp (though imo its a better engine) and even that blows other mk4 1.8ts out the water. The fastest car thats properly tried to have a go with me is a focus st, and I blew that away also, was pretty even up to about 40-50 but the AUM just kept pulling when the st slowed

I'm not bragging as I got no real clue how fast st's are, but it put a smile on my face this was on my way to work and it turned out we both worked in the same terminal so he parked next to me and asked what it was 

All i've done to mine is stage 1 map, jetex 16v system, sports cat, cold air induction, coldside dv relocation. Again I have no real clue as to how much difference this has made as I never drove it standard, all I know is its fast as f**k and a lot of fun 

Anyway back on topic, there is a good list of gearbox codes and ratios etc on clubgti, the 16v 02a (DFQ) is obviously better suited to the mk3 shell as its from a mk3, its also imo the best ratioed (is that a word?) 02a box or even 02j
As I said before though, if you ever do get an 02a, try and fit it with an 02j shift tower and an 02j shifter, its so much smoother and feels a lot nicer than the 02a.

I saw kells saying welding is needed to fit the 02j, but I'm not sure if thats right? Apologies if I'm wrong but I think I remember asking the same thing when I was doing mine and was told its just a straight swap the only bos that wouldnt fit was the vr6 as its different bell housing?

[danmusic24]

Mine is just a standard AUM 150bhp, not even as powerfull as the AGU which is 180bhp (though imo its a better engine) and even that blows other mk4 1.8ts out the water. The fastest car thats properly tried to have a go with me is a focus st, and I blew that away also, was pretty even up to about 40-50 but the AUM just kept pulling when the st slowed

I'm not bragging as I got no real clue how fast st's are, but it put a smile on my face this was on my way to work and it turned out we both worked in the same terminal so he parked next to me and asked what it was 

All i've done to mine is stage 1 map, jetex 16v system, sports cat, cold air induction, coldside dv relocation. Again I have no real clue as to how much difference this has made as I never drove it standard, all I know is its fast as f**k and a lot of fun 

Anyway back on topic, there is a good list of gearbox codes and ratios etc on clubgti, the 16v 02a (DFQ) is obviously better suited to the mk3 shell as its from a mk3, its also imo the best ratioed (is that a word?) 02a box or even 02j
As I said before though, if you ever do get an 02a, try and fit it with an 02j shift tower and an 02j shifter, its so much smoother and feels a lot nicer than the 02a.

I saw kells saying welding is needed to fit the 02j, but I'm not sure if thats right? Apologies if I'm wrong but I think I remember asking the same thing when I was doing mine and was told its just a straight swap the only bos that wouldnt fit was the vr6 as its different bell housing?

what has happened to yuor build thread dan! its seems to have stopped?

[Dan_GTi8v]

I stopped when I realised the only person reading it was me

I'd like to keep it going but once I went back to work I found less and less time for the car and the updates were so small I thought 'I'll wait till I get more done to update', then I just got lazy I guess 

I'll be updating soon though, done quite a bit since the last update and also gonna be editing my pcv, fitting a catch can, and removing some brake booster lines to make the engine bay more presentable. I've also removed that pants bodykit that I for some reason thought looked good lol

update will be within the next month I hope

[madmanmart]

thanks mate i appreciate that 

the massive build thread is here, this is from day 1 but its a big thread
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=79957.0

conversion of engine starts here on page 91
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=79957.900


absolutely lots to read, i have a zillion more pics than what were uploaded to the forums too

Kells, did you do the wiring yourself?

Or is it running 'qpend'?

[danmusic24]

yeah! i would like a bit more info on the wiring side of things..looks like you just ripped out the old loom and replaced with the complete s3 loom

[F17BAD]

thanks mate i appreciate that 

the massive build thread is here, this is from day 1 but its a big thread
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=79957.0

conversion of engine starts here on page 91
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=79957.900


absolutely lots to read, i have a zillion more pics than what were uploaded to the forums too

Kells, did you do the wiring yourself?

Or is it running 'qpend'?

No Qpeng stuff going anywhere near my car ever!!, we used Audi ECU and Loom.


Doing a MK2  - 1.8T conversion using AUM in a few weeks and doing the same, factory ECU. its the best way by far because manufacturesr dont soend $$$$$$  developing it for no reason

Vagcom hooks up to mine as normal and i can run MK3 clocks, and the MFA computer works as normal. its basically as tho the engine came in the car from new

Andyout on CGTI is really good for looms, he can defeat the immobiliser too which needs to be done

[F17BAD]

yeah! i would like a bit more info on the wiring side of things..looks like you just ripped out the old loom and replaced with the complete s3 loom

its the full S3 engine side loom, engine harness loom and ECU

the engine loom  basically replaces the old GTI one, this plugs into the fuse box.. you do need the old loom tho for certain connectors.. a bit of splicing is whats done.. (basically what Qpeng do but badly and then use their own Management)